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Old 11-04-2009, 03:03 PM
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CCA to Testify Before Senate Committee on Oceans Policy
Committee seeks CCA’s input on role for recreational fisheries in ocean,
coastal stewardship
WASHINGTON, DCU.S.Sen. John D. Rockefeller IV (D-WV), chairman of the Senate Committee on Commerce, Science and Transportation, has invited Coastal Conservation Association to appear before a hearing on Nov. 4 to testify on the National Ocean Policy Task Force’s Interim Report. CCA federal lobbyist Matt Paxton will address the development of the National Ocean Policy and the role for recreational fisheries in ocean, coastal and Great Lakes stewardship.
“The Senate Commerce Committee is critical in the passage and implementation of laws that impact the oceans and fisheries,” said Matt Paxton, CCA federal lobbyist. “This is the committee that gives the Administration the legal authority to do what it wants to do with the National Ocean Policy.”
The hearing is the first Congressional hearing specifically about the National Ocean Policy and CCA intends to highlight several areas of concern in its testimony, particularly the need to include recreational anglers as a core element in the development of any overarching oceans policy.
“In this type of policy which is specifically about conservation and the health of our ocean resources, we have to be a part of that process,” said Paxton. “It is incumbent upon the Administration to recognize recreational anglers as stakeholders and stewards of the marine environment.”
CCA has also objected to the speed of the process to develop a National Ocean Policy and has sought to have concepts that are prominently featured in it, such "ecosystem-based management" and "marine spatial planning” clarified.
“These terms are not defined and could be extremely problematic for anglers,” said Paxton. “The Interim Report discusses ecosystem-based management and marine spatial planning as federal mandates. We do not believe the Administration has the authority to shoehorn these concepts into existing laws and implement them. The legal authority to do these things has to come through this Committee, which makes this hearing critical.”
The Interim Report has drawn widespread criticism from the recreational angling community for attempting to fast-track sweeping reforms for the management of resources in federal waters, but failing to recognize – or even mention – the conservation, economic or social contributions of recreational angling.
“Recognizing the economic importance of the boating and angling sector should be a key part of this policy,” said Paxton. “But even beyond that, any oceans policy should celebrate and promote the use and enjoyment of the marine environment by the public, much like the policies that govern our National Parks.”
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Get involved people or lose it. Join CCA and other organizations and fight back. If you dont than dont get upset when you loose your rights to fish.
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Get involved people or lose it. Join CCA and other organizations and fight back. If you dont than dont get upset when you loose your rights to fish.
I couold not agree more.

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This is why I support CCA and donate a trip each year to more than one state's CCA... The funding that CCA needs supports these kind of efforts. It's so important to have someone stand up and represent our interests at every level - local, state, and federal. That's particularly true in an era where some of the supposedly green outfits are actually anti-fishing in every sense of the word - all under the guise of protecting our oceans, etc....
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I am proud to say that I just joined the board of my local CCA chapter and am looking forward to becoming very involved.
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I got a similar letter from the state of Texas. Gov. Rick Perry is getting involved in this as well. I am also a lifetime Member of CCA. I believe they do a great job and are a good org.
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Do a search on the CCA and PEW Trust. The CCA is not necessarily always a friend to the recreational fishermen.
Although they began with the pure intent of protecting the fishery for the enjoyment of all, I am afraid they have fallen in with strange bedfellows, and that intent has been perverted.
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Do a search on the CCA and PEW Trust. The CCA is not necessarily always a friend to the recreational fishermen.
Although they began with the pure intent of protecting the fishery for the enjoyment of all, I am afraid they have fallen in with strange bedfellows, and that intent has been perverted.
What are you saying? Don't support them?
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Do a search on the CCA and PEW Trust. The CCA is not necessarily always a friend to the recreational fishermen.
Although they began with the pure intent of protecting the fishery for the enjoyment of all, I am afraid they have fallen in with strange bedfellows, and that intent has been perverted.
What you said would not suprise me but do you have a link to what just mentioned.
Respect you views and I'm not a member and was about ready to join but without question now I want to find out what it is that you know about this issue.
Everyone has the right to be heard........ Let this gentleman have the floor guys.
In his views he knows something that we don't.
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What are you saying? Don't support them?


He is mainly talking about our CCA here in SC,they have turned their backs on us on alot of issues of late,your CCA's may still be on your side,if so congratulations you have some good people working with you..and if so by all means support them..


but for us we are on our own..especially when it comes to any issues with offshore fish managment/closures..

the saddest thing is one of our largest/oldest tackle dealer owners is on the CCA board and thinks these closures are good..stabbing the people who have supported him for years in the back..
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Sorry about SC
The tail gate has dropped an BS stopped and we will see what they can or can't do Nov. 4th. Lots of questions will be answered on this one on both sides of the fence.
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Do a search on the CCA and PEW Trust. The CCA is not necessarily always a friend to the recreational fishermen.
Although they began with the pure intent of protecting the fishery for the enjoyment of all, I am afraid they have fallen in with strange bedfellows, and that intent has been perverted.
I could not have said it better (or kinder). In the current struggle with the SAMFC regarding proposed Snapper/Grouper closures (based on obsolete findings and poor science) they provide no support. They turned tail and ran throwing us under the bus after taking our $$.

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I could not have said it better (or kinder). In the current struggle with the SAMFC regarding proposed Snapper/Grouper closures (based on obsolete findings and poor science) they provide no support. They turned tail and ran throwing us under the bus after taking our $$.

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What is the FRA?

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For the record, I am a member of CCA, FRA, and RFA. I am suspicious of the CCA taking money from PEW while also supposedly protecting our fishing rights.
I think there are other entities out there that provide better representation for recreational fishing rights than CCA. But that's just my opinion.
I do agree 100% that the CCA turned their backs on the issue of the snapper/grouper closures in the Gulf and South Atlantic. They definitely did not apply their own doctrine in this particular circumstance.
I also believe that there are some CCA charters that are better than others. I am hopeful that the ones that aren't follow the good examples provided by other states' charters.
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.... I am suspicious of the CCA taking money from PEW while also supposedly protecting our fishing rights..
I'm more concerned that CCA is owned by Valero Energy.... you won't see CCA do anything that is contrary to the whatever the energy industry wants -- which is mostly unrestricted access to any place they want to drill or mine.
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I was a CCA member and gladly sign up again but I have emailed CCA twice to find out their stance on the NMFS early closures for recreational snapper. No reply.
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Do a search on the CCA and PEW Trust. The CCA is not necessarily always a friend to the recreational fishermen.
Although they began with the pure intent of protecting the fishery for the enjoyment of all, I am afraid they have fallen in with strange bedfellows, and that intent has been perverted.

I think this is a different CCA (The Congressional Coalition on Adoption (CCA)
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I think this is a different CCA (The Congressional Coalition on Adoption (CCA)
Send $$ to the RFA not the CCA.

Sorry but the CCA has sold out they took PEW money and they just like most people in politics now have to pay back for what they received.

The hole article is here:
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Pew is a major grant provider to universities and professors in the marine sciences and
the major provider of funds to environmental groups that push the party line. Those groups
include The National Environmental Trust, Oceana, Earthjustice Legal Defense, the New
England Aquarium, the Public Interest Research Group, National Audubon Society, National
Resources Defense Council, Sierra Club, Conservation Law Foundation, Marine Conservation
Biology Institute, Marine Fish Conservation Network, Wildlife Conservation Society, Friends of
the Earth and the Theodore Roosevelt Conservation Partnership. Combined, these groups have
received over $200 million of Pew money and most have openly endorsed the implementation of
arbitrary no-fishing zones!
The Theodore Roosevelt Conservation Partnership is particularly worrisome. It is
attempting to become an umbrella group for sportsman’s organizations and has attracted the
participation of some fishing organizations with the lure of Pew money. The American
Sportfishing Association and the Coastal Conservation Association are among the board
members of the Partnership. And when the going got tough during the Magnuson Act
reauthorization, they ended up on the same page as the Pew-funded groups.
This is what Congressman Pombo, then chair of the House Resources Committee had to
say recently. “Throughout the long process to reauthorize the Magnuson Act the RFA was
consistently at the table, insisting on sound conservation policies based on the most accurate
science. Their goal was clear, a sustainable fishery so that this generation of recreational
fishermen and the following generations would have fish to catch. Most of the other
organizations engaged in this debate had other agendas or were totally missing in action. At
the end of the 109th Congress it was clear to me that the RFA was the only player left insisting on
protecting the future of recreational fishing. I will always be grateful to them and respect their
tenacity during what proved to be a difficult reauthorization.”
Since the implementation of the Sustainable Fisheries Act in 1996 the management of
U.S. fisheries, while far from perfect, has become a model for the rest of the world. Yet Pew
continues to use scare tactics to drive its agenda domestically while the most egregious problems
can easily be found abroad. Their agenda may sound laudable, but the reality is that their goal is
to stop fishing. Pew used the money of its well-heeled donors like a school-yard bully during the
debate and attacked those who stood in their way. Pew has seriously damaged the ability of
recreational fishermen to do what we love to do – go fishing.
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This is why I support CCA and donate a trip each year to more than one state's CCA... The funding that CCA needs supports these kind of efforts. It's so important to have someone stand up and represent our interests at every level - local, state, and federal. That's particularly true in an era where some of the supposedly green outfits are actually anti-fishing in every sense of the word - all under the guise of protecting our oceans, etc....
Thanks for your donations, Cap't. Our local chapter just had it's annual banquet and lots of money was raised from those donated trips, gear, boat and motor, etc.

I was a memeber of the FCA back in the 90's. Our efforts helped ban the gill nets from inland waters. With help form many fellow fishermen, Karl Wickstrom of Fla. Sportsman magazine and FCA members; legislation was enacted that stopped the wasteful, underenforced netting.

Our local chapter is active and our monthly meetings are filled with fellow fishermen who get the latest input from guest speakers, law enforcement, and charter captains.
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