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Old 05-22-2007, 08:21 AM
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right now we haul six rod/reel combos down to the boat, two trolling, two rigged for jigging, and two spinners for casting. Would like to get that down to four rods.

We are waiting on a couple Shimano Toriums set up with trevala rods for jigging. Do you guys know if these are any good for casting, like for phin in weedlines?
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They can be used for casting, but not for novice or even moderately experienced fishermen.
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I cast with a Penn levelwind, and sometimes with a Penn 113H and a TLD. it takes an experienced thumb, for sure.
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I used Torium 30's on UglySticks for casting tuna hunter poppers during a 52 hour tuna trip last September! Caught 4 yellowfin up to 95#. Set the backlash control and apply light thumb pressure. The trip the year before I used a TLD25 on an 8' UglyStick with the same results. Braid is a little more tricky when casting because it likes to bury in the spool and will backlash easier, especially with lighter lures/baits. Careful not to burn your thumb!
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I hear ya. By 'backlash control', do you mean that little knob thingum that squeezes down on the spool axle?

I just started using braid this season, and have had it bury itself a few times. Now when I am reeling in I try to move it back and forth across the spool a lot more, so theres more of a criss-cross. Seems to help. Is that standard practice?
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Thats correct. The small knob behind the star drag is the backlash control. When reeling in spectra, use your thumb to move the line back and forth across the spool.
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Gringo...here's my "Day to Day Setups" 2 - Penn Slammer 560's on Trevala 6'6" medium for casting to mahi, cobia, etc.... 2- Calcutta 700's on Trevala 7' medium light for the same, and light trolling for Kings, Bonita, etc... 2 - Avet MXL 6.3:1 on 6'6" Trevala Heavy (with 80lb super braid) for bottom fish (Grouper, Snapper, Tuna jigging, etc).

These go 99% of the time...if I plan on trolling larger game, the spinners or calcuttas stay home and the 20 or 30W Fin Nors make the trip, but either way, I always have casting, bottom gear on board. (Actually, they make the trip everytime, and just add the larger outfits to the mix).

If I could only take two outfits...the Calcutta and the Avet's would be the two I would grab. (I can troll with both, although if a big billfish appeared, I'm done...but for tuna, wahoo...I'm good to go. Basically safe from sailfish down...mahi included).

As for the line....loading it the way you are is what I suggest. Also, what kind of Braid? some are flat and dig real easy, some are round and are easier to manage...I started with Stren Super Braid this year and love it so far.)

One last thing...I went with the Calcutta 700's for a reason....I like them and I wanted something onboard with a levelwind for those "not so skilled".... It saves alot of time fixing crap at the end of the day.
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so far, the only braid I can find "in-country" is Power Pro, so thats all I have used.

any special techniques or jigs for tuna? Is it like bottom jigging but just higher in the water column?
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Gringo...be careful with Power Pro... there was alot of fake power pro being sold on eBay last year and in other areas...there is a way to tell by the packaging. The fake stuff was giving people fits...here's the link: http://www.powerpro.com/press/news/d...ESS_NEWS_ID=23

Down where you are, the oil rigs aren't as easy to spot....so look for reefs, and especially deep water breaks (I know you got those). the butterfly type jigs work well (and high speed reels help, ie the 6.3 avets)...I bought some jigs from BassPro that are their inhouse brand and they have worked great and cost 1/2 of the Shimanos. Be sure to use a floro leader with that braid and enjoy. I do suggest if using the trevalas, to really pay attention to the actions...My suggestion, go up one from what you think you need....for instance, the HEAVY 6'6" is the lightest I would go for jigging around here (texas). With the MXL, it makes a great setup. I bought the lighter rods for the other reels because the actions of the rods offer alot of flexibility for other styles of fishing other than jigging.

As for how to fish it...let it down to the bottom while thumbing the reel...if it stops on the way down...ENGAGE and Set the hook!... If you get to the bottom, put it in gear and start a jerky, quick pumping motion with the rod (AdamT is good at this)...while reeling (reason for the higher speed ratios)...get that sucker movin' through the water...and hang on! I suggest somekind of belt to put the butt end of the rod into when you hook up...

Oh...one last IMPORTANT thing...if fishing with the braid...especially while jigging...you better remember to move your thumb off the line that you were going back and forth with to lay the line on the reel...and move it in a hurry!!!! I've had to start carrying superglue to patchup my thumb from being laid open by the line ripping off the reel...it happens FAST!

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I guarantee if there was an oil rig around here, it would be WAY easy to spot. and I want one of them thumb cuts.
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