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As I was putting a rig away, it got loose and the rod tip hit the garage floor. It didn't damage anything except the ceramic (HIALOY?) insert at the tip, there is a chip with a very sharp edge. The rod is a 6' Outer Banks 30-80# standup with turbo guides. Any ideas where to get either just the rod tip insert (preferred) or a new tip? Thanks!
__________________ 2004 Trophy 2902 WA with Merc 225 EFIs
Sucks gas and hauls ass!
One step ahead and you are a genius, two steps ahead and you are a misfit.
You cant buy "just the insert" Even if you could, you can't just glue it in the guide or tip top and have it hold. Take the rod to your local tackle shop and they can replace tge tip in less than 5 minutes
The problem with Mudhole is you have to know the correct size, and UBETRUN doesn't even know the insert is not replaceable, so I doubt he would have a tip gauge to determine the correct size to order. A tackle shop would have an assortment of types and sizes to match the rod correctly. When you determine what size the tip is, you can order from Mudhole, as well as a stick of tip cement.
Take it to a rod shop. Many production rods don't have tips affixed with thermal glue, rather they use one of the epoxies already mixed for the rest of the rod. Grip, reel seat, and gimbal epoxy doesn't work loose under heat, so if the tip is installed using this type of epoxy then the tip will not be replaceable without cutting down the rod. Too much heat applied to the rod tip while trying to work non-thermal glue loose will damage the blank.
Take it to a rod shop. Many production rods don't have tips affixed with thermal glue, rather they use one of the epoxies already mixed for the rest of the rod. Grip, reel seat, and gimbal epoxy doesn't work loose under heat, so if the tip is installed using this type of epoxy then the tip will not be replaceable without cutting down the rod. Too much heat applied to the rod tip while trying to work non-thermal glue loose will damage the blank.
That's the way this one is built, the rod's clear epoxy covers the metal tip.
The insert popped out when the tip hit the cement and I was able to pop it back in place. If I could get a new insert, I'm sure it would stay in place with a touch of super glue. I've got a set of micrometers, I'll take some measurements and see if I can't order a replacement tip for just the insert. If that doesn't work, I'll take it to a rod shop the next time I'm in VA Beach.
Thanks for the advice
__________________ 2004 Trophy 2902 WA with Merc 225 EFIs
Sucks gas and hauls ass!
One step ahead and you are a genius, two steps ahead and you are a misfit.
I’ve never seen replacement rings so just order a new tip and be done with it. A lot of guides have part number on them but if not a tips are measured in 64th of an inch. The tube on a number 14 tip is 14/64" in diameter.
Contrary to the above rod epoxy does remove quite easily using just a bit of heat. I use an alcohol burner but have used a lighter in emergencies. Apply just enough heat to soften the epoxy and then take a pair of pliers and twist the tip off the end.
To install the new tip use a good with 5 minute epoxy like Devcon. Thermal sticks while cheap and easy to use can and will soften in the heat of summer and cause a possible tip failure.
You could take a chance of buying a new top and trying to remove the ring and replacing the broken ring with it. May not be successful but tips are cheap, especially aluminum oxide tips. Worst you can be out is $3.50. I've never seen the rings alone for sale; the guides come from the factory with rings installed.
If none of the above works, another option may be to surgically remove the wire frame and ring from the tube section of the damaged tip using cutters or a Dremel, file down and clean up the tube section as it stays on the rod, and install a new larger tip over the old tube. It won't be pretty when you look close but the function of the rod will be unaffected. In fact it may not look too bad.
Jesus H. Christ... what is the big deal...take the rod to a rod shop if you are unsure and have the tip replaced.
Relax dude
If you must know, there aren't any rod shops in my area and I'm not the type to pay someone else for something I can do myself.
I appreciate all the other advice
__________________ 2004 Trophy 2902 WA with Merc 225 EFIs
Sucks gas and hauls ass!
One step ahead and you are a genius, two steps ahead and you are a misfit.
Broken rod tip guide 
