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Old 05-18-2017, 07:35 AM   #1
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Default Is 50# braid overkill for Stripers?

I have been using 20-25# mono fishing from a boat for a few years now, but was looking at using braid. I was all set to just get 30# Tuf Line XP but after reading this forum and a bunch others, a bunch of guys are using 50# braid for Stripers?

That seems like a bit overkill. Even if you are not the best fisherman, you still should be able to catch a 30-50lb striper on 30# braid. Am i missing something? It seems like reels are getting lighter, smaller and more powerful, but using 50# test just seems to be non-sporting for your average / large striper.

I have been using a 40-50 leader, but for the main line 50#?

Dont want to put anyone down, but is larger line just an ego thing? Do people want the largest line for the prize fish even if 90% of what they catch is not as sporting?
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I use 30 lb braid on all spinning and casting setups for stripers. Some of my trolling gear has 50 or 65lb.
I could see using the 50lb if there was situation where you thought the stripper could take the line down into a mussel bed or rocky area and change it off. The thicker line might give you a better chance.

I think your larger point is accurate. Using 50lb braid for everyday stripper fishing is probably more than you need
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I use 30 lb braid on all spinning and casting setups for stripers. Some of my trolling gear has 50 or 65lb.
I could see using the 50lb if there was situation where you thought the stripper could take the line down into a mussel bed or rocky area and change it off. The thicker line might give you a better chance.

I think your larger point is accurate. Using 50lb braid for everyday stripper fishing is probably more than you need


I use 50lb braid, we mostly drift rocky reefs for stripers, need to get control of the fish quickly or it will chafe you off. Also there are lobster pots in the same area we drift, don't want to let the fish get around a pot
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Old 05-18-2017, 07:55 AM   #4
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This might help you out.. 50# similar diameter to 12# mono.

US Sizes

SIZE (lb.) DIAMETER (in) ~ Mono Equivalent
8 / 1
10 / 2
15 / 4
20 / 6
30 / 8
40 / 10
50 / 12
65 / 16
80 / 18
100 / 20
150 / 30
200 / 50
250 / 80
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Old 05-18-2017, 08:01 AM   #5
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I know the equivalents, but if 20# mono breaks at 30# and 20# braid breaks at 30#, but wouldn't you just use the same # and put more on your spool? So what if its thinner and more like 8# mono? It will cast better.

I can see moving up a bit for a rocky area, but to go to a 20# Mono which seems to be the standard in Mono for NE Striper fishing to automatically need 50# braid seems a bit absurd.

As I said, I might be missing something.
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Old 05-18-2017, 08:03 AM   #6
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The main advantage of using 50 lb. braid is it is less likely to have wind knots than 30 lb., however, it is a little stiffer and casting distance is a little shorter. In my opinion, this has nothing to do with how "sporting" it is, but rather what is easiest to use where you fish. If you want "sporting", use a 10 lb. or less mono leader.
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We are talking about 2 different things here, I am talking about drifting bait, usually whole live bunker with 8-12 oz of lead.
For spinning gear I use 20lb mono.
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We are talking about 2 different things here, I am talking about drifting bait, usually whole live bunker with 8-12 oz of lead.
For spinning gear I use 20lb mono.
Yes, I get that. This is for general drifting, bottom fishing, 8 n' bait, etc.

Would you not use 20# braid in your spinning gear?
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Old 05-18-2017, 08:54 AM   #9
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You don't need the additional strength but the extra diameter makes it less likely to bury itself on the spool. And since I always use a FC leader with braid 30#'s is the smallest I ever use even on my freshwater reels.
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On my heavy jigging reel for the rips I use 50 and 12#.drag. mostly because I dont.want a very.thin diameter and 600.yards of line. I.typically.run a 10'.leader.from 30 to 50#.depending on the situation. The slob I caught last year in heavy current nearly.chafed my 30. Had to change it after.one.fish.
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Old 05-19-2017, 10:07 AM   #11
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30 lb braid is enough for bass for live baiting bunker. if I'm fishing mono 20 or 25 lb test is good.when using the braid I like to use shimano trevela's the rod is the shock absorber. either setup 6 foot 60 lb leader
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Totally dependent on your fishing technique, I imagine. Trolling mojos and such use heavier line. Freelining live baits use lighter line.

And just because you have heavier line doesn't mean you have to set your drag that heavy if you don't want to.
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Old 05-19-2017, 01:44 PM   #13
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Like everyone said, it depends how you're fishing. Here in NJ it depends on method of fishing and depth. Trolling you're looking at 40-50#. We have 50# backing and 40# monel on our spoon rods. We actually use 50-60# braid on our umbrella and mojo rods. There is a lot of drag and a ton of weight on those setups. Especially if you luck into a double on an umbrella or mojo. Live lining we use Avet SX with 30#. These rods double as bottom fish/wreck rods.

We dual purpose as much as we can. Our umbrella/mojo rods are actually our tilefish setups as well. I would absolutely NOT go under 40# if you're trolling umbrellas or mojos for a couple reasons:

1) You get a double, you're way outgunned with just 30.

2) You need a pretty good amount of drag to keep the line from creeping off the reel.

3) We like to get the fish we plan to release to the boat quickly to cut down on mortality.

I did watch a fishing show (yes, you can laugh) where they were livelining up in NE. They tested mono against braid. The 20# mono outfished the braid like 4:1.
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All I do is striped bass fish in the Chesapeake. Here is what use:

15-20lb braid for jigging and plugging
20-30lb braid live bait fishing or chunking
100lb for my trolling gear. Just to have the diameter.
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I have been using 20-25# mono fishing from a boat for a few years now, but was looking at using braid. I was all set to just get 30# Tuf Line XP but after reading this forum and a bunch others, a bunch of guys are using 50# braid for Stripers?

That seems like a bit overkill. Even if you are not the best fisherman, you still should be able to catch a 30-50lb striper on 30# braid. Am i missing something? It seems like reels are getting lighter, smaller and more powerful, but using 50# test just seems to be non-sporting for your average / large striper.

I have been using a 40-50 leader, but for the main line 50#?

Dont want to put anyone down, but is larger line just an ego thing? Do people want the largest line for the prize fish even if 90% of what they catch is not as sporting?
Depends on the rod and reel your putting it on and how much structure you fish around.
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Old 05-20-2017, 11:30 AM   #16
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So what i am hearing is that 20 lb mono is going to be as strong and as abrasion resistant as 50# braid for stripers. If I don't need up to 70 lb breaking point, and I know how to use the drag properly, why switch? Only plus is that I will get more line on the reel and might "feel the bite" a bit better.

If I was trolling I guess I would use 50 lb braid. (I have never had any problems pulling in stripers trolling with 20 lb mono.)
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All you need to do is lose 1 set up to broken braid and it could cost you $$$. We had 80 let go today on the mojo alone
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50 pound braid is easier to work with then the 30. Less wind knots and easier to tie with wet hands.
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Old 05-20-2017, 06:51 PM   #19
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Default Waaaaay Overkill

All I do is catch stripers, preferably big ones. I only jig for them, and feeling the bite is paramount. 10# is plenty in open water, 15# in high current break off situations. Fishing with 15# braid feels like fishing with winter gloves on, fishing with 20# is terrible.
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