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Old 04-20-2017, 10:58 AM   #21
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Just rig the whole lure with multi strand wire. Mahi dont give a damm neither do wahoo.
I run all wire a lot of the year the issue is that we get yellowfin in May and June they won't hit wire.
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Old 04-20-2017, 11:10 AM   #22
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Bucklene,

You mentioned you are seeing cut offs right at the eye of the hook, correct? It seems like many have tried to address that issue with their suggestions.

That said, have you seen cutoffs up the mono, up toward the middle of further up your mono leader? If so, I think this occurs when a wahoo hits the original bait and hooks himself, he then runs away and the lure rides up the mono leader due to water pressure. The lure in on the mono somewhere behind the hooked fish and another wahoo comes and hits the wayward lure and cuts the mono. You loss your lure and the original fish.

IF this is also a problem or concern...

A fix I learned while marlin fishing in Australia is to take rigging floss and tie/wrap a small clump of it 1 foot in front of the lure (on the Mono leader). This small small wrap of rigging floss will act as a stopper when the original fish hits. The lure will stick one foot away from the original wahoo's mouth and therefore the lure will ride along the fishes body/side. This close proximity will keep the other wahoo from hitting the free floating lure like in the past. That type of cutoff can be avoided while still using mono leader.
Most of my cutoffs occur at the hook so I think the cheater rig referenced above or ironworker's rig will work. I like the floss idea too. I know people that run two sections of wire with a swivel in between on their wahoo lures so the lure can't slide all the way up and any hits from a second fish will still hit wire.
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Old 04-20-2017, 01:34 PM   #23
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I run all wire a lot of the year the issue is that we get yellowfin in May and June they won't hit wire.
Caught a many on #9 brite wire rigs over the years...
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Old 04-20-2017, 05:25 PM   #24
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If the cutoffs are right at the hook, it may be due to the needle eye hooks as mentioned earlier. Try a regular eye and see if that helps
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Old 04-20-2017, 06:00 PM   #25
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If the cutoffs are right at the hook, it may be due to the needle eye hooks as mentioned earlier. Try a regular eye and see if that helps
Needle eye hooks are for wire and not mono. I've seen numerous situations where folks have rigged mono in needle eye hooks and have had it fail. In fact, I just got through re-rigging a number of lures that a friend of mine rigged with mono in some needle eye's.
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Old 04-20-2017, 06:21 PM   #26
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Needle eye hooks are for wire and not mono. I've seen numerous situations where folks have rigged mono in needle eye hooks and have had it fail. In fact, I just got through re-rigging a number of lures that a friend of mine rigged with mono in some needle eye's.
I should have noted earlier that pictured rig is my only mono setup rigged with a needle eye hook. I was rigging a new lure and it was all I had left. Didn't think much of it but will make sure I only use those on wire.

I think the source of the cutoffs was the larger mono loop with the weight and hook eye in it. I'm thinking the cheater rig will be a good solution. Also most of the hook cutoffs have been instant before fish was able to take any line.
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bead rig one or put a 6" trace-o-wire above hook?
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Old 04-21-2017, 12:57 AM   #28
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What about cedar plugs that are run on needle eye hooks? A lot of my Ballyhoo rigs are on needle eye hooks and never had a problem.
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Also depends on the needle eye. Although I wish they had a bigger gap, I been using the owner needle eyes, which have a more rounded eye. Absolutely no issues and I really like the long shaft, which I also think helps with line abrasion/cut-offs.
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Old 04-21-2017, 05:22 AM   #30
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I use all mustad stainless tuna hooks.
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Old 04-21-2017, 10:45 AM   #31
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Hey guys, this isn't that hard-

Take 6 inches of wire and fold it in half. Run your mono through your crimp, weight, through your hook eye, then back through both. Take that wire, push one tag end through the hook eye, then both tag ends through the weight and into the crimp. Crimp it off.

I make all of my ballyhoo pin rigs like this with 1.3b crimps, 130 mono, and I think 90 single strand. I have caught several wahoo that severed the loop of mono at the hook eye, but I still managed to land the fish.

I'd post pictures but I'm at work for the next two weeks.
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Old 04-21-2017, 12:48 PM   #32
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Easy to do......you can even use this wire to form your pin rig if you so desire.
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eyecatcherlures.com makes them if you want to buy a few rigs and copy. I have used them the last few seasons and have they have been great.
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