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Old 07-31-2005, 05:03 PM
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Default Best Back Supports For Stand up Tuna Fishing

I am looking at the wide variety of back supports for stand up tuna fishing ie: Back Harness / Sit Down Bucket Harness / Fighting Belt. At what weight class do I need more that a standard fighting belt and could anyone recommend the best belts and supports on the market.
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Thanks but I looking for belts / supports like http://www.alltackle.com/braid_belts.htm
I just don't know what kind really helps fighting 50 - 100lb fish

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I chose the Braid system with the belt that goes around the butt rather than across your back . . . the rod is suspended lower by a few inches and there is no pressure on your back.

A bunch of guys are pro belts that go across your back, but I disagree . . . the Braid system I use places no stress on the back and by leaning back you pull up on the rod without straining your back

Go to the Braid site and they will describe how to use it.

However, the Braid system is harder to adjust . . . but I have mine and it is adjusted for me and I let others use my other belt.

I caught a nice 300 - 350 lb marlin this June . . . fought the fish for over an hour and no back fatigue what so ever . . . my arms were numb and my legs were tired standing up and fighting the marlin for over an hour . . . .
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I forgot . . . I use Shimano 50s LRS Gold . . . I would not go smaller if you are planning to fight big fish on a regular basis . . . Good luck in deciding
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Thanks I purchased 2 Tiagra 30WLRSA's and 2 50WLRSA's I plan 2 get at least 2 more 50's. When using the Butt Belt are your arms working the fish or your lower body? What brand and length or rods are you using?
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If you are going on a long range tuna trip, their site will list the harness they recommend.

The $250 powerplay 2 piece harness and brute thigh pad rod holder will let you exert the most amount of power to the rod with your legs, but take the time to get it adjusted right lifting a heavy weight off the floor with your hands not touching the rod or reel.

This harness will let you exert up to 40 lbs of pressure for tuna up to 350 lbs.

I personlly use the $120 Nu-Mark vest harness as I find it simpler to use and more comfortavle and have no problem exerting 30 lbs of pressure for tuna up to 175 lbs.

Both can be found at basspro under this link.

http://www.basspro.com/servlet/catal...rTarget=browse
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the braid brute busteri is an awsome system.
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We use the set-up auguste and bullshipper mentioned ,works great and we use it all winter fighting bluefin.
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Any preference on rod length is it easier to fight with 5 1/2 or can I get 6 foot to help get over the outboards.
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clover2695 - 7/31/2005 8:51 PM Thanks I purchased 2 Tiagra 30WLRSA's and 2 50WLRSA's I plan 2 get at least 2 more 50's. When using the Butt Belt are your arms working the fish or your lower body? What brand and length or rods are you using?
I have 6 ft Chaos rods with full rollers and I use wind on leaders

The Braid system has two straps which hook into the reel . . . this means that your legs are doing the work . . . you reel with one hand and the other hand spreads the line across the reel . . . you don't use your arms to hold the reel

Since I fish alone quite a bit, I use a saftey lanyard to keep me in the boat . . . you never know
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Ifa you are higher off the water, a 6īrod is better than a 5īto keep the line from a circling tuna away from sharp objects.

But if you look at the braid site, you will see 4īrods for applying maximum pressure.
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Do any of you use the "bent butt rods" or are they for fighting chairs only.

I can only image what I am going to find if I search that on Google
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With west coast rods, you donīt see too many bent butts due to the very flexible tips.
Traditional east coast rods are stiffer at the tip and more suited to this combination.

With the west coast style, the straight butt rod is kept pretty vertical, and this keeps the reel close to the body where you have more strength than with your arms extended, so this helps you in the same way as the bent bett style.
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I agree with bull re staright butts and not bent butts.When you use the Braid stand up system a bent butt would keep the rod much too low and you would loose some of the leverage you are extracting from your legs and fighting belt.On my boat a 4 ft rod would be too short . . . way too short as how do you keep your line from rubbing on the boat?
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I do a lot of stand up fishing in the islands. Although our yellowfin dont run up pass 100lbs or so we catch quite a few plus marlin, swordfish etc. I know the braid product works really well but I have been using a system that I really like called Black Magic. Reason I like this system better than braid is that in the rod belt there is a wedge that fits between your thighs and eliminates any torquing of the belt. The back straps come with two belts, one fits under your butt and the other goes around your lower back. As said above the one under the butt really eliminates any back or arm fatiuge. Make sure you adjust everything prior to the battle as a poorly fitting harness system can create even more pressure on your body.
As far as bent butts, I have just started using a shorty bent butt and I think it can create more lift on the rod than a straight butt. I fish a 6ft rod to get the clearance I need should I want to take the fish around the outboards, or is that the fish that wants to take me around the outboards.
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When I lived in Southern CA. We did alot of long range fishing for large Yellowfins. We always used one of the Braid Harnesses. They have come along way since the late 80s-early 90s. They cant be beat just make sure everything is adjusted properly so you are doing all the work with your lower body.There should be little or no preasure on your arms or back you should be able to squat or lean back on a large fish and let go of the reel and be comfortable.
Would recomend a short rod 5 1/2 ft or under (no bent butts) so you can lay the screws to the fish when you need too. Also a two speed reel is a must. Be carefull I have seen alot of glass shatter and big boys crash to the deck on a big tuna. Mark
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FullHouse - I know the braid product works really well but I have been using a system that I really like called Black Magic.
The Black Magic rod harness and gimble system (made in New Zealand as I recall) has over the years been rated by many experienced stand-up anglers as the best system available.
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fyi

http://www.blackmagic.co.nz/

Sorry, but its anything but the Braid for me. Gave up diapers a long time ago.
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Alutecnos has a nice combo. I like it better than braid systems.
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