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Old 01-19-2014, 09:50 AM   #1
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Hey guys I am looking into getting a talica BFC. Couldn't find a review online. Anybody use one? Are they reliable? How is the drag?
Thx a lot guys
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Old 01-19-2014, 11:56 AM   #2
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A Few guys here on the Treasure Coast, "SAILFISH HEAVEN"...
are using the FIN FOR Marquesa Pelagic, MA30TP....($285 E-Bay)
i'm sure the Talica is better made, But,
you could get 2 MA30TP's plus $180 to Spool them UP,
for the price of 1 Talica BFC ($750.)....
IMO,
Talica where made for TUNA,
TUNA pull 4X harder than SailFish, at Drag from 10LB's-30LB's,
Sailfish only require DRAG of 4LB's-9LB's,
3-6 times less STRESS on the REEL...
... the FinNor will be GREAT, with Proper UP-KEEP....
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Old 01-19-2014, 04:44 PM   #3
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Sir you're mistaken. The poster is asking about the BFC which is a totally different animal than the stock talica. If you target sailfish, or small marlin, kite fish or dredge/ dead bait fish, the talkies BFC simply cannot be beat. Great reels with features you "always wished" you had. Shimano nailed it. You won't be disappointed. There's a reason they're $800 each and worth it 10000% as long as the way you fish promotes it. Boomerang rod and you're good to go.
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search THT for more info...they have been discussed before. I know JPK has some on his sled.
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Yep, totally different animal than the regular talica.
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Old 01-19-2014, 07:32 PM   #6
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Sir you're mistaken. The poster is asking about the BFC which is a totally different animal than the stock talica. If you target sailfish, or small marlin, kite fish or dredge/ dead bait fish, the talkies BFC simply cannot be beat. Great reels with features you "always wished" you had. Shimano nailed it. You won't be disappointed. There's a reason they're $800 each and worth it 10000% as long as the way you fish promotes it. Boomerang rod and you're good to go.
Sorry i was unclear,
i know the differences in the Reels,
my point was,
the Marquesa Pelagic,
was Designed with the Same IDEA as the Talica BFC,
Both LOW DRAG Curve,
(CAM's have Slow Drag Slope),
for more Precise Control,
with a MAX Drag of 15 LBS(@ Full Spool).
....... that the FIN NOR Could do the Job,
and should be looked at for HALF the $, as a Option...
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I stock both the BFC's and the Fin-Nor Marquesa Pelagic series. Both have special spooled pricing on them, best to PM me or call the shop for details.

As stated, they both have very slow ramping drag curves, with low strike & max drag ratings, specifically designed as Billfish reels

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Old 01-21-2014, 09:16 AM   #8
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Hey guys I am looking into getting a talica BFC. Couldn't find a review online. Anybody use one? Are they reliable? How is the drag?
Thx a lot guys
As MarlinMate1 mentioned, I have BFC's on my boat. I have a set of eight for trolling for white marlin and sailfish.

When I first bought them I thought I might be out of my mind because of the cost, but you could not make me go to another reel now. They are fantastic. The drag is smooth as silk and the reels drop back to fish better than any other reel I ever used, because of their very light weight spools. More than adequate capacity for 20-30lb. Extremely fast retrieve.

The weather conditions in Mexico last spring were horrendous many days, a lot worse than typical and while we were circling up sea for a second or third hook up the boat was being blown toward the hooked fish. Too many anglers were having trouble keeping a tight line, so I bought the BFC's for their lighting retrieve speed. Solved the issues and we were able to catch more multiples and release a single a LOT faster with the BFC's with the anglers being able to keep up with the boat. We had the same great experience with the BFC's fishing for white marlin.

Some fishermen don't like the drag lever detent between free spool and drag, but I like it and so do the guys who fish with me and my captain too. You get used to it quick. But if you don't like it, it can be removed easily by a competent shop or by yourself.

If they BFC's have a negative it is the lack of harness lugs, which 99.9% of the time is no issue. But it becomes an issue when you end up hooking a blue or big tuna on one by accident, or when the angler is a child or an inexperienced woman. This can be overcome a couple of ways, one is to crimp a small loop of 300lb mono around each reel seat bolt so you can slip the harness hooks or clips into the loops, and, can't recall who, someone makes an aftermarket reel seat with lugs on each side for harness hooks.

I bought the reels in February or March last spring and we have caught about 125 billfish on them and countless tuna, mahi, etc. There has been no maintenance other than typical washing required in the time I've owned them.

While trolling for white marlin, we hooked about a 320lb big eye, which we lost at the boat after almost three hours. We had to increase the drag during the fight to make headway and the fish was fought at 16lbs of drag, as tested after the fight. That BFC showed no ill effects and you couldn't pick it out from the other seven on board. FWIW, we crimped on 300lb mono loops so the angler could use a harness an hour and change into the fight. If we had done that earlier I think we would have landed that fish. The angler did a great job and gave all he had, but was too beat at the end to avoid making a fatal mistake, which was to lean too far back, trying to rest, and making the rod angle too high, which parted the line with the fish just out of gaff reach. The reel was spooled with 25lb Suffix Hi-Vis, for white marlin.

Another possible weakness might be a tendency for the drag to back off it's preset while either being shuffled into the cabin or to the cockpit or while in the rack awaiting the next trip. I'm not sure on this, but a couple of times we would find that one of the reels had a lighter than typical drag. We use a 7lb strike drag. I'm not 100% sure if it is a trait of the reel or if it is occurring because of handling by my crew or others on board. My crew does store the reels (read: are supposed to and usually do) with the lever backed off.

Like I wrote earlier, I wouldn't own a different reel now that I used the BFC's.

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Thx so much guys I really appreciate it
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Old 01-25-2014, 06:52 AM   #10
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I was also considering the accurate bxl light line reel. How do these compare?
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Old 01-25-2014, 11:43 AM   #11
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not even close BFC blows them away
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Sir you're mistaken. The poster is asking about the BFC which is a totally different animal than the stock talica. If you target sailfish, or small marlin, kite fish or dredge/ dead bait fish, the talkies BFC simply cannot be beat. Great reels with features you "always wished" you had. Shimano nailed it. You won't be disappointed. There's a reason they're $800 each and worth it 10000% as long as the way you fish promotes it. Boomerang rod and you're good to go.
You seem to have to have a love/hate relationship with this reel.

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Old 05-26-2016, 07:05 AM   #13
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Sir you're mistaken. The poster is asking about the BFC which is a totally different animal than the stock talica. If you target sailfish, or small marlin, kite fish or dredge/ dead bait fish, the talkies BFC simply cannot be beat. Great reels with features you "always wished" you had. Shimano nailed it. You won't be disappointed. There's a reason they're $800 each and worth it 10000% as long as the way you fish promotes it. Boomerang rod and you're good to go.
Hello Angler Managemnt,

I was looking at reels for Kite Fishing and I ran into the Shimano's Talica 20 BFC and checking the reel characteristics, I see this reel is extremely fast "Ultra high speed with 60' inches of line retrieved per crank" as per Shimano's web site and without question this fast retrieve is definitely a huge advantage to remove line slack however although it has a price tag of US$ 800, I could not find any indication that it has Stop Button to prevent accidental advancement to full drag, ratcheted drag lever, 2 speed system, harness lugs or even a substancial line capacity in line with reel at this price point. The drag of 15 pounds is good but not impressive as well.

That been said, I am trying to find out what would be the reason when you mentioned "Great reels with features you "always wished" you had. There's a reason they're $800 each and worth it 10000%”.

I do not have the intension to start any argument here as I am pretty sure this is a great reel and so I am truly looking for information as so far besides the retrieve rate, I could not find a reason to spend US$ 800 on it.

Please let me know.
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Check out the Okuma Andros SE reels (12 or 16)....less than half the price and similar specs.

870/20lb test vs 640/20 on BFC
6.4:1 gear ratio vs 6.7:1 on BFC
Max Drag at Strike is 10lb vs 15lb on BFC
$350 vs $800 on BFC

I've got 2 of the Okumas and have been very happy with their performance....basically getting 2 for the price of 1 BFC.

The BFC does have a black stop button that you press to move the drag to sunset
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I have two of these reels, BNIB ..boxes never opened...$750 shipped. No tax, no shipping.
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Thanks for the offer however I am still trying to figure out if the Talica BFC is worth the money...
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And where does the Truth LG (Large Game) Billfish fit in this, it seems to be very well regarded and is $400. Love to see a direct comparison between the top billfish targeted reels.
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Love/hate is a great way to put it. Ive had a dozen BFCs that we used and then stopped then tried again. Can't fall in love with them for the fishing that we do here in FL. I've tested literally every reel on the market in both tournament and heavy charter use.
The BFC is the best for bait and switch but for kite fishing the clicker is too light and the reel easily backlashes while letting the kite out even with clicker on. If I lived in Maryland, the talica BFC would be my choice.

The best I've found for here in SE Florida and the ones I use exclusive for tournament fishing are the Andros SE 16. They have the total package. Light clicker, but strong enough and unbreakible, awesome drag curve for light mono and capacity for strung out fish. OKUMA is making some really top quality stuff, these SE reels are great.

For a price point reel you cannot beat the penn fathom 40 lever drag (high speed 40nldhs). These are phenomenal light line reels and match perfectly for 20 pound kingfishing and kite fishing for sails and pelagic species. I have yet to break a clicker on one or have any issues. We have had 36 of these in very heavy charter use for over a year now and they've performed very well.

We really loved the Tyrnos 20 for a long time but the external corrosion (although cosmetic) was a bother to us for customers to see. We used avet LX for a long time but the clickers wear out and they're not fast enough compared to the new options. For a long time they were a great choice - then again, 10 years ago I used the TLD 20 and thought it would never be beaten!!!

The LG and LGB truth reels are built phenomenal but the clickers were too light like the BFC and made kite fishing a pain at times.
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Love/hate is a great way to put it. Ive had a dozen BFCs that we used and then stopped then tried again. Can't fall in love with them for the fishing that we do here in FL. I've tested literally every reel on the market in both tournament and heavy charter use.
The BFC is the best for bait and switch but for kite fishing the clicker is too light and the reel easily backlashes while letting the kite out even with clicker on. If I lived in Maryland, the talica BFC would be my choice.

The best I've found for here in SE Florida and the ones I use exclusive for tournament fishing are the Andros SE 16. They have the total package. Light clicker, but strong enough and unbreakible, awesome drag curve for light mono and capacity for strung out fish. OKUMA is making some really top quality stuff, these SE reels are great.

For a price point reel you cannot beat the penn fathom 40 lever drag (high speed 40nldhs). These are phenomenal light line reels and match perfectly for 20 pound kingfishing and kite fishing for sails and pelagic species. I have yet to break a clicker on one or have any issues. We have had 36 of these in very heavy charter use for over a year now and they've performed very well.

We really loved the Tyrnos 20 for a long time but the external corrosion (although cosmetic) was a bother to us for customers to see. We used avet LX for a long time but the clickers wear out and they're not fast enough compared to the new options. For a long time they were a great choice - then again, 10 years ago I used the TLD 20 and thought it would never be beaten!!!

The LG and LGB truth reels are built phenomenal but the clickers were too light like the BFC and made kite fishing a pain at times.
Great feedback Angler Managemnt.
You pretty much covered it all at once.
Thank you very much.
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What rods do you use for whites/sailfish? 15-30 for sailfish and change the line for whites?

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