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Old 04-08-2013, 08:19 AM   #1
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I recently bought a std square fishing kite and can't seem to get it to fly right. I tried yesterday off the boat in about 15mph winds and all it wants to do make circles and eventually ends up in the water - BTW now i know why tying a balloon on the kite helps... I have checked all the rigging and it seems square
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Old 04-08-2013, 08:58 AM   #2
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play with the bridle length. it will change the angle the kit sits at. most likely that will solve your problem. trial and error type adjustments.
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also, go out somewhere other than in the water (ie a park) and learn to use it adjusting the bridle.
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Old 04-08-2013, 09:27 AM   #4
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First, if you haven't done so already, READ THE KITE INSTRUCTIONS. Understand how to make adjustments and what those adjustments will do to the kite's flight.

Also check that your kite lines aren't wrapped around the spars and adjusted properly.

The biggest thing you'll fight when learning to fly a kite is just how much the T-top will mess up the air when trying to get the kite up. This will often send your kite into a tizzy and land it in the water unless the wind is strong and steady. Sending the kite on it's way by using the outboard to push you upwind is usually the easiest way.

Balloons really should only be used under very light/no wind situations. And yes, retrieving a submerged kite stinks
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Old 04-08-2013, 10:17 AM   #5
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Put the kite up while youre at trolling speed heading into the wind, let it out until you get to the first clip, then slowly back off the throttles. Putting the kit into the rigger clip and sending it up from there works as well.
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Old 04-08-2013, 10:55 AM   #6
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SFE kites need to be scrubbed with soap and water before use! The pores in the fabric are plugged up, the fabric is supposed to "breathe". Also read the instructions, they tell you exactly how to set the spars and bridle. I had the same problem with my sfe(spinning), a couple good scrubs and it flies like a champ.
Keep in mind that sfe kites seem to be a bit harder to get up so it will take a bit of practice. It also helps to start letting it out at the bow. The furthest away from the ttop as possible as the ttop will block the wind. Good luck
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the other thing to be mindful of is make sure you are getting clean wind. the t-top on the boat creates a rather large pocket of dead space behind. the kite with leave your hand perfectly, goes up a few feet and then does the death spin - usually this is because you lost the clean wind due to the t-top.
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What kite is it. There are a few sold on ebay that suck. An SFE, Bob Lewis, and Tigress should be good. If it is an SFE and the store you purchased it from leaves the kite tubes out some of the spars could be mixed up from people opening up multiple tubes. They are all specifically balaced as a set. If you break one you cant just use one from another kite.
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I use one of these

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Old 04-08-2013, 05:58 PM   #10
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I use one of these

i like your KITE,
i used to have a few of those
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SFE kites need to be scrubbed with soap and water before use! The pores in the fabric are plugged up, the fabric is supposed to "breathe". Also read the instructions, they tell you exactly how to set the spars and bridle. I had the same problem with my sfe(spinning), a couple good scrubs and it flies like a champ.
Keep in mind that sfe kites seem to be a bit harder to get up so it will take a bit of practice. It also helps to start letting it out at the bow. The furthest away from the ttop as possible as the ttop will block the wind. Good luck
I have the instructions in my hand and no where does it say to scrub the kite. Where did you hear this? Breathe?
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I have the instructions in my hand and no where does it say to scrub the kite. Where did you hear this? Breathe?
SFE KITES -- do they have a website? Need instructions

This is a old thread that became new again..., starts at post #16, people with issues, contacted SFE, and they said to wash them as their new China supplier of material coats the material with something....
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I have the instructions in my hand and no where does it say to scrub the kite. Where did you hear this? Breathe?
I called sfe when mine was rolling excessively and they told me to scrub it because the new fabric they use wasn't allowing air to fly through. By breathe i mean air is suppose to flow through the fabric.
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Thanks for all the suggestions - i think my T-top may have been the culprit.

I have a Frenzy kite I ordered through Capt Harry's
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Throw away or sell your sfe and buy a boaton big game.
Half the price and flies twice as good!
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Funny you say that because I actually started with a Boston Big Game and it does fly pretty easy - just thought i'd give the square ones a try..
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The BBG kite is a Sled Kite and sled kites are easier to fly then square kites. but understand it does have positives and negitives..

Sled kites will fly in much lighter winds then square kites because they grab alot more air. They also will pull ALOT harder in highter winds. I dont use them in winds higher then around 15 mph. If it gets in the water and you have a currant it is difficult to get back if it sinks..

All that said. I have 3 BBG kites and use them allmost all the time. On the dead calm days when there s just no wind at all, i will use a square kite with a ballloon bridled to the back..
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FWIW, my 2 cents:

Have out riggers? I launch my kites from the riggers to get them above the 'bad wind' from the console and t-top.

I have 2" stainless rings crimped onto about a foot of 200# mono...and brass clips on the other end.

Clip them on to the long rigger release, then run the kite line thru the ring and attach the kite.

when ready to launch, I keep some drag on the kite reel, and run the rigger halyard out...it pulls the kite right up and into clean wind. Then I let it out until I get to the first clip and then bring the rigger halyard back down so I can reach the ring.

The first kite clip goes thru the ring, then clip on the bait and run em out...repeat for each bait clip. When I have all the bait out, I usually run the rigger back out, just to keep the angle nice and high between the bait clips and the rods (I usually put out three per kite).

Clip a small split shot to the lower corner of the kite and you can 'steer' it in that direction...if you are running multiple kites, it helps to keep some distance between them.

RE: spinning: If using an 'all winds' kite, I think that if the angle of the kite is too perpendicular to the wind (on a windier day), it can cause spinning...the kite needs to dump wind out from under it. That's when you want to present less 'face' or surface area to the wind. The less the wind, the more square to the wind you can go. Or switch to a light wind kite.
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Old 04-09-2013, 10:45 AM   #19
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TomFl I think the suggestion of putting a balloon on the kite was so that when it goes in the water it will stay on the top of the water and be eaiser to retrieve. Not a Helium balloon size one, like you said which is used in light or no wind conditions.
We use a very small balloon and tie it to where the spares cross with some floss. Does not effect the flight of kite and can save you $$$ when it goes swimming.
Your info on the T Top effecting wind is spot on and moving to get it flying is a great tip.
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Old 04-09-2013, 12:00 PM   #20
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No riggers but you got me thinking.. I have an old 7' siibiki rod that I don't use becuse it's too stiff. I bet I could rig up a hook on the end and put it in my T-Top rod holders to get the kite started. Once the kite is flying I hould pull the rod down and release the kite line...?????? It would get the kite into clean air atleast.. Valid idea?

And yes I suggested the baloon to keep a downed kite from sinking - it's a bitch pulling up a submerged kite...
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