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Old 03-09-2005, 09:11 PM   #1
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Default Power Pro vs Tuff Line XP

I have been reading and researching which line would be best to spool with for bottom fishing. I plan on spooling with 80 or 100lb test. I have heard a lot of good things about Power Pro, but I have also heard some negatives:

1) The line breaking when it shouldn't for no apparent rreason.
2) Quality control issues and
3) Inconsistent manufacturing process

I just wanted to find out what everyone thought as to which is the better line. I know there are a lot of people who like Power Pro on here.

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Old 03-09-2005, 09:15 PM   #2
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I used the tuff line 30lb last year and noticed no difference from the PP except price
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Old 03-10-2005, 06:28 AM   #4
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I use PP on all my reels including 80lb hi vis yellow on my TLD30 which I use for jigging groundfish. No problems with breakage ever. I use a 7 ft 130 lb fluro leader to eliminate ponding the PP with the jig.
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Old 03-10-2005, 06:37 AM   #5
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I've used pp spiderwire stren and the berkley gorrilla braid 30-50 on spinning rods for footballs which is why Ihave used so many different kinds[ keep getting spooled] The berkley is the only one i won't use again For bottom fishing I use 30-50 on my rods 80-100 on the kids rods because you have a chance to untangle the heavy stuff the lighter braid just cut and retie also if you run 15-50' of mono leader it helps This stuff has been on our reels for 3 seasons still no dry rot just some fading
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Old 03-10-2005, 06:40 AM   #6
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I;ve just recently been using power pro, seem to have many more break offs on AJ's than I did with fireline,
I,m going back to fireline, just my preference, also when using braid I use a short bimini above leader/swivel much less break offs, also find it helps to wrap line twice through swivels before tying knot, (i prefer a uni knot).
I,m not saying this is the only way but it works for me!

Also I,m starting to feel i'm losing more fish on braid than i did on mono especially if they are bigger fish and i'm trying to get them away from stucture/bottom, I,m starting to set my drag lower to allow for no stretch on the initial take, don't want to hi-jack your thread but i doubting whether circle hooks on braid work as well as on mono?
I think i'll start a thread on this!
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Old 03-10-2005, 08:11 AM   #7
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We use 30 and 50lb PP, here in the North East with great results, the keys to me are that you must tie the right not and tie it correctly, both lines are very slippery. Also, all of your line guides must be free of burs (this is a common problem, blamed on braid failure). 30LB pp is so strong we have a tough time breaking it when we want to. I can't imagine 80-100LB. I have heard good things about tough line as well.
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Old 03-10-2005, 08:52 AM   #8
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We use 30 and 50lb PP, here in the North East with great results, the keys to me are that you must tie the right not and tie it correctly, both lines are very slippery. Also, all of your line guides must be free of burs (this is a common problem, blamed on braid failure). 30LB pp is so strong we have a tough time breaking it when we want to. I can't imagine 80-100LB. I have heard good things about tough line as well.
You nailed it! 9 out of 10 times there is a knick in one of the guides that breaks the PP!
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Old 03-10-2005, 12:48 PM   #9
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I use Tuff line XP and have had no problems. I do use a topshot on mono or other when
fishing it. A quick trick to check out your guides to see if their is a small nick is to run a
piece of and old pair of the wifes (or new pair off your girlfriend ) panty hose thru the guides. You'll
know real fast if your guide or ceramic liner is nicked. One of my buddies kept breaking off
his Power Pro. Blamed the line until we checked out his guides. Sure enough it was the nick
in the guides causing the weakness in his PP line.
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Old 03-11-2005, 03:35 PM   #10
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Default RE: Power Pro vs Tuff Line XP

ditto the reply regarding the guides. the slightest chip in the guide will part the line. the small diameter seems to hang in the small crevices & cut off. imho
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Old 03-11-2005, 03:54 PM   #11
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Default RE: Power Pro vs Tuff Line XP

While the Tuf Line XP is great, I like the Tuf Line plus best. Holds up better with less problems with knots and fraying.
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Old 03-11-2005, 06:44 PM   #12
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Tuf- Line is all I use! It is on every reel I own and I depend on it every day. Its what I do for a living. The PP has a reputation for parting for "no reason". "The reason" is... during manufacturing, they will fuse line together to complete a spool to be retailed from the huge spools they pull from. This is to save money by not discarding any scrap. Everybody will not have this problem, (some will never experience it) only the unlucky few who end up with that spot on their reel.
I have heard good things about Stren's braid from a few friends who use it. But until the Tuf-Line lets me down, it is my go to line.
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Old 03-11-2005, 10:11 PM   #13
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I have reels spooled with pp and tuff line. I don't see any advantages with the pp, save the money and go with the tuff-line.
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Old 03-11-2005, 10:22 PM   #14
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Thanks to everyone for their responses. There is such a wealth of knowledge on this site that I knew you could point me in the right direction.

Thanks again.
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Old 08-18-2011, 11:50 AM   #15
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Let me tell you, I am retiring from Power Pro. I recently bought 1500yard spool of 50lb line. If you use power pro, you really need to cut off about 6-10 feet of line everytime you go out, even then you can still have breaks.
1) PP dry rots
2) PP breaks for no reason, I am using 50lb and whenver a 20lb fish is on, I am scared to death the line is going to break, what I do is i let the drag out, and only put a tiny bit of pressure when the fish is swimming toward the shore. Any more than that, SNAP, bye bye fish.
3) The color is visably faded after a few uses near the hook. However, even on a night where I changed my last few feed of line, I have had several breaks.
4) NEVER try to put pressure on the line while the fish is on the sand, SNAP.
5) It seems I must have got defective 1500 foot spool of PP, quality control issues.
6) it is not about how i tied the knot, it went through the hook twice wraping it 7 times forward and backwards like a square knot which is impossible to get out.

Never again with PowerPro. I am going to try this Tuff XP stuff you guys talk about. I will get 80lb now just because I have a bad taste after using PP. Anything other then PP, I have heard SpiderWire and Fireline although i have not tried either yet, but moving on....
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Old 08-18-2011, 12:02 PM   #16
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Default Tuff Line XP

Tuff Line XP is rounder and packs on your reels better.
Tuff Line from Western Filament is a pioneer in this technology with many products copying them.
I also feel the coating actually stays on the Tuff-Line better and does not come off all over your hands and rods as much as PP can do.

I have been using it for years on all my reels, 30, 50, 70's and to date have had no failures,
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Old 08-18-2011, 03:47 PM   #17
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Tuff Line all the way. I have had the same breakage problems with power pro and there are no nicks in my guides. I used to be a big advocate of braid, but now I only use braid for topwater popping and bottom fishing. Its too much of a pain in the arse...
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Old 08-18-2011, 04:15 PM   #18
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For whatever reason, 50# PP seems to just be a crappy product.

I use lots of 65 and 80 pp and never had a problem.
When I had 50 on it had mystery breaks all the time.

Seems like lots of posts on lots of forums specifically mention 50#PP as crap.
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Default PP vs Tuf-Line XP

This is an old thread, but I will add my two cents.

I learned about Tuf-Line when in Alaska many years ago. Came back to Florida and learned that my local commercial tackle store had dropped PP and gone to Tuf-Line XP. I had been using several different braids and was OK with them. Bought a spool of 100lb Tuf-Line and was very satisfied with how it held up under charter boat use. Been using various Tuf-Line XP strengths for over 15 years with no problems.
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Old 01-10-2017, 09:34 AM   #20
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Sponsored by Tufline.
I recommend simply going to Tufline's website and reading about their story and the parent Western Filament. This is a tried and true american line making company. I have nothing against PP, but it seems they simply have had a better marketing budget over the years, Tufline is now getting more active. It's also my understanding that the "PP guy" learned the trade at Tufline.

Tufline is now pushing 4/Force and Dominate8 lines, I'm told the 4orce is nearly identical to XP if you can't find XP at your local shop.

PS: They also have TONS of other lines, from coated wire to downrigger replacement line.
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