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Old 10-21-2010, 12:09 PM   #1
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Default TLD 25 enough for wahoo?

I'd like to try targeting wahoo, but my biggest reel is a 25 with 30lb momoi. My buddy went out last weekend a got a 49lb'er. Rod's are 30-50 Star 7'. Should I stick with phins?
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Load it with 60lb power pro, probably close to 500 yards and go fishing....
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Old 10-21-2010, 12:26 PM   #3
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I caught a 65 LB wahoo this spring on a tld 20 with 30 lb test. I was bottomfishing and it just swam up and inhaled a chunk of bonito. First run dumped half the spool so I wouldn't know how well I would have fared if I had been trolling with 100 yds out, but none the less I landed it in 30 minutes. The rod is a 15 to 35 lb class rod about 7' long. So yes it is very do able.
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Old 10-21-2010, 12:27 PM   #4
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i have had no problem catching wahoo on my tld25's. A couple of week ago caught a 45lb, 35lb & 25lb with 40lb test.
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Old 10-21-2010, 12:33 PM   #5
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You're going to be pulling heavier lures and likely trolling weights at higher speeds. I'd replace the mono with braid and go fishing. Keep in mind that you're probably going to get spooled at some point but you'll likely put a couple of dozen fish in the boat before then.
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Old 10-21-2010, 12:49 PM   #6
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You're fine with the TLD 25 and 30lbs mono unless you're going to try HS trolling.

More than a few marlin have been brought to the boat on TLD 25s, so 40-60lbs wahoo should not cause a problem. A private boat that is NOT high speed trolling can quickly chase a fish to recover line should that become a problem.

Set the drag for 8-10lbs at Strike and have a ball. If you're trolling, use a good quality double ring ball bearing snap swivel to prevent line twist and 4' of #9 wire.

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Old 10-21-2010, 12:57 PM   #7
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my neighbor caught a 75 pounder years ago on a penn slammer spinning reel while catching schoolie dolphin

as long as you have someone behind the wheel who is decent at running your boat i think youll be fine. as stated above, you might have that one fish that spools you, but hey, thats part of the fun.
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braid is great but not needed. a good swivel, wire leader and someone who can drive the boat is all that is needed.
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40lb momoi diamond is all you need bud, you are not going to be pulling high speed gear with that tackle. I used to catch plenty of wahoo on my tlds before I got a set of avet 30's and they did just fine. No chasing or backing down required just keep a forward pace and let the drag do the work

Even a 100lb hoo isn't going to be a big deal if you are pulling meat with a TLD....

FYI i catch them all the time pulling live bait with my torium's and 20lb test....
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As stated above it is very doable if you are livebaiting or trolling a "regular" spread. My biggest wahoo to date is 53 lbs and was caught with a baitrunner 3500 and 12 lb line while live baiting for kings.

On a different note I have had 35 lb fish dump 3/4 of a 30 wide with alot of drag while high speed trolling. These fish in this situation would destroy a tld 25 in short order. I own about 12 tld's and love them, but they have limitations (as most reels do).
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Old 10-21-2010, 01:36 PM   #12
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You're going to be pulling heavier lures and likely trolling weights at higher speeds. I'd replace the mono with braid and go fishing. Keep in mind that you're probably going to get spooled at some point but you'll likely put a couple of dozen fish in the boat before then.
Spot on. Those TLD's will handle wahoo but make sure to get some #7 wire leader. You can also stalk the fish if you start losing too much line. We landed a blue marlin on a similar outfit with 50# mono by slowly, very slowly, driving at him and taking up the line.
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40# Momoi diamond on a TLD 25 will work fine. We caught this 60# wahoo on that setup
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All we used to use were TLD 25s. We Did the Alantani upgrade to six of them and put 80lb JB Hollowcore with a 100ft 60lb topshot. More than enough reel for the size Wahoo we catch here. We now use the same set of reels for White Marlin Fishing. They are the perfect setup for the White. I really like the TLD25s they are a great reel especially when you have people on the boat that are new to offshore fishing. Very easy reel to handle.


Dave I remember that day!! I believe you were a little overboard...

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Alantani Upgrade. New Carbon drag washer, extra pressure washer, change the orientaion of the pressure washers and new over size handle.
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Dave I remember that day!! I believe you were a little overboard...

Meaning we were well offshore or that I overestimated the size of the fish at the time? We were definitly way the hell out that day
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Offshore 3144- have you ever landed a blue marlin on one of the upgraded TLD 25s?
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braid is great but not needed. a good swivel, wire leader and someone who can drive the boat is all that is needed.
I have caught several 70 lb on TLD 15s (the 25s little cousin) while kingfishin. They are very capable reels and those rods should handle it no problem.... High Speed trolling you better go light on lures...
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Offshore 3144- have you ever landed a blue marlin on one of the upgraded TLD 25s?
No blues on ours but lots of whites. We were fishing last June out of OI and one of the charters had a young man on the boat around 14 or so and they released a 200-300lb blue. I remember him coming on the radio and asking use to stay clear because the fish was on a TLD. He Also said that the fish almost spooled the reel. Its not uncommon for boats white fishing with TLDs to release small blues.
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All we used to use were TLD 25s. We Did the Alantani upgrade to six of them and put 80lb JB Hollowcore with a 100ft 60lb topshot. More than enough reel for the size Wahoo we catch here. We now use the same set of reels for White Marlin Fishing. They are the perfect setup for the White. I really like the TLD25s they are a great reel especially when you have people on the boat that are new to offshore fishing. Very easy reel to handle.
Alantani Upgrade. New Carbon drag washer, extra pressure washer, change the orientaion of the pressure washers and new over size handle.

Alan Tani is a master at upgrading the TLD's---but even he will tell you that its expensive to do that upgrade for a TLD---maybe not worth it at all...go out and get you some more back bone---a 50W of Penn, shimano, daiwa. I did my 25 TLD's with him and left out the handle upgrade --its crazy expensive. I later realized, after hooking into a goliath grouper of 200# that it doesn't really matter the upgrade, that reel simply maxes out at a certain drag point. AS SAID ON HERE, IF YOU ARE GOING TO DO ANY FAST TROLLING FOR THE BIGGER WAHOO, YOUR GONNA INCREASE YOUR ODDS BY PULLING HEAVIER LURES WITH CIGAR SINKERS AT A SPEED OF 15 MPH + AND ZIG-ZAGGING the edges of the reef. Your TLD will not handle the drag pressure regardless of upgrades. I don't worry about being spooled by a wahoo...so, braid or no braid is not a concern, I chase them down. I would worry more about being cut-off instead.
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Alan Tani is a master at upgrading the TLD's---but even he will tell you that its expensive to do that upgrade for a TLD---maybe not worth it at all...go out and get you some more back bone---a 50W of Penn, shimano, daiwa. I did my 25 TLD's with him and left out the handle upgrade --its crazy expensive. I later realized, after hooking into a goliath grouper of 200# that it doesn't really matter the upgrade, that reel simply maxes out at a certain drag point. AS SAID ON HERE, IF YOU ARE GOING TO DO ANY FAST TROLLING FOR THE BIGGER WAHOO, YOUR GONNA INCREASE YOUR ODDS BY PULLING HEAVIER LURES WITH CIGAR SINKERS AT A SPEED OF 15 MPH + AND ZIG-ZAGGING the edges of the reef. Your TLD will not handle the drag pressure regardless of upgrades. I don't worry about being spooled by a wahoo...so, braid or no braid is not a concern, I chase them down. I would worry more about being cut-off instead.
There is a big difference in fishing for a fish that is going into a wreck and general trolling. I dont think he said anything about high speed trolling? The braid is on the reel for more line capacity for whites and tuna not for line strength. We used TLDs off the NC coast for general trolling for 20 years and have never been spooled. It is great to have the extra drag for YFTs.
Back in the day When I was in Southern cal. the TLD was a pretty popular reel. That is the only place I have ever seen a TLD pop a frame and those Tuna were in excess of 200lbs. For wahoo in general the TLD will work upgrade or not it just will take a little longer to get the fish to the boat.
That being said I love my 30s and 50s and use them now for offshore trolling. We only use the TLDs in combination with the gold stuff for whites.

I love the sound of a screaming tld...
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