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Old 08-29-2010, 05:11 PM
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try taking off one or both of the rubber sleeves on the crimper handle
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That crimper is not right! The jaws should definitely touch when fully compressed. Almost seems like it's on the wrong setting or something - like pliers have two holes for the pivot.

Does that thing have ratchet action or something? And I don't suppose it came with instructions...

If none of the above applies, I say return it and test the next pair in the store or buy a different brand.
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try taking off one or both of the rubber sleeves on the crimper handle
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That crimper is not right! The jaws should definitely touch when fully compressed. Almost seems like it's on the wrong setting or something - like pliers have two holes for the pivot.

Does that thing have ratchet action or something? And I don't suppose it came with instructions...

If none of the above applies, I say return it and test the next pair in the store or buy a different brand.
Dhy4b, thats what ive been trying to find out. It does have the ratching action. There is no obvious place on the pliers to adjust. I may just have to return it to West Marine, unless someone can chime in with how to adjust this tool.
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Those sleeves are oval-shaped and you're trying to crimp across the strongest profile. Turn them 90 deg and crimp across the narrow side (marked with arrows below). If they won't fit in the crimper that way, use the flat part (circled) to crush them down, taking care not to crush the mono too much when you do it.


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Those sleeves are oval-shaped and you're trying to crimp across the strongest profile. Turn them 90 deg and crimp across the narrow side (marked with arrows below). If they won't fit in the crimper that way, use the flat part (circled) to crush them down, taking care not to crush the mono too much when you do it.

Definately not, you are trying to compress them correctly. I think that there is a problem with the tool and also the crimps are too large although a correctly working tool should still close them further than shown in your photo.
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Captain , thank you. Back to the store they go. I saw a good looking pair of Mustad crimpers. Ill see if they are any good
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I have one of these. It works really well with those mini-lock crimps

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You need a new crimping tool. Those crimpers are not working properly. You dont need an expensive pair. I have been using a pair of BillFisher hand crimpers for 10 years and have crimped 1000s of sleeves with them.They have worked great.....Mark


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love my Jinkai crimper
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Throw the oval crimps away and use a double barrel crimp for mono

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You may want to have a look at the Braid Power Crimper; it's pre-calibrated. No longer be unsure of just how much pressure is required to complete your crimp. Place the sleeve in the matching groove, then compress until the ratchet disengages. Pre-calibrated from 50lb - 500lb; titanium matte finish with non-slip grips.

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If you want the help buying...........

I will send you a 100 pack of Billfisher 1.0B ( 80 - 100lb) Double Sleeve (pretty sure I have some in stock) and a new Williamson WCT heavy duty crimper delivered to your door for $ 43......... via PayPal.

Crimpers alone at Boaters World is $ 64.
http://www.boatersworld.com/product/..._source=Become

Williamson Crimpers specs:
http://www.williamsonlures.com/products/accessories.php

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I have an 1 extra BRAID 32915 Crimper that I can send w/ the same 100 pack of 1.0 sleeves for $ 37 delivered.


Either way, the ones you have don't work properly.......

Take $ 4 off of the prices if you don't want the sleeves.......Let me know.
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You should be able to adjust it with one of the screws on it. I forget which one but I think the one in the middle does it... or that's how it was on my Williamson.
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Killer that was a very kind offer, but I purchased a pair of Momoi crimpers yesterday online. Thank you. Im hoping that this pair crimps properly!
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For what it's worth...if you mix and match, Crimpers - Crimps - Line of different manufacturers this is the possible outcome as described in the initial post.

For 25 years we have used and continue to with confidence, Jinkai tools (bench crimpers and hand crimpers), Jinkai sleeves, and Jinkai line and leader materials (Fluorocarbon and Mono).

We do alot of rigging for customers, which in and of itself poses a "risk", to our credibility, many tackle companies will NOT rig lures, chains, bars etc since they don't want the "rigging failure" risk associated with their products.

Jinkai, has a "matched set" system which in our minds is the only way to closer to "foolproof" rigging.

Not saying, other tools or rigging will not work, we just find peace of mind with using the Jinkai system.

It's alot easier when you don't have to "think"..what crimps go with what line/leader..what hole to use in the crimper, bench or hand, because of the "non-matching" rigging materials produced by several different companies.

Jinkai is a bit more expensive, but we feel it is well worth the extra $$ spend when rigging for big game.

Certainly, not the only way to accomplish the same goal, just our way.
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Hey Fzero thanks for the quick reply, the container for my sleeves says 60-90# test. I’m wondering if the chart above uses inside diameter measurement. I thought that the 1.1mm measurement on my container was for the outside diameter of my sleeve. My Berkley Big Game mono is .889mm.

When I am trying to crimp I am using the smallest cup to cup section which is labeled 0.1-0.5mm. The tool just does not close tightly when there is a sleeve in it.
The crimping tool you are using is not working properly!

If the line diameter is ~ 0.9mm, try using a 1.0mm crimp. When crimping line, it is best to match up the line diameter and crimp sleeve size as close as possible. Then when making the crimp, use the corresponding notch on the crimping tool too. As in this case, use the notch marked 1.0.

It's is also important to use a good line cutting tool that makes a crisp, clean cut. Make sure the end of the line doesn't mushroom out or flatten as this will make it difficult to get the tag end of the line through the crimp (maybe you're using a larger crimp because the line is mushroomed and it won't slide into the crimp??). I also find that cutting the line at an angle, making a sharp point to it, will help with getting the tag end through the crimp.

One last note - when crimping the sleeve on the line, the jaws of the crimping tool DO NOT have to close completely and touch each other to make a good crimp. As you gain some experience with crimping, you will develop the "feel" for how tight to squeeze down on the tool. If the crimp sleeve is compressed too tight, it will end up pinching the line inside the crimp and weaken the line causing it to break prematurlely.

Feel free to give me a call if you have any questions...443-848-1074
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Thank you Reelsmith, I may just just do that if I need more help.
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For what it's worth...if you mix and match, Crimpers - Crimps - Line of different manufacturers this is the possible outcome as described in the initial post.

For 25 years we have used and continue to with confidence, Jinkai tools (bench crimpers and hand crimpers), Jinkai sleeves, and Jinkai line and leader materials (Fluorocarbon and Mono).

We do alot of rigging for customers, which in and of itself poses a "risk", to our credibility, many tackle companies will NOT rig lures, chains, bars etc since they don't want the "rigging failure" risk associated with their products.

Jinkai, has a "matched set" system which in our minds is the only way to closer to "foolproof" rigging.

Not saying, other tools or rigging will not work, we just find peace of mind with using the Jinkai system.

It's alot easier when you don't have to "think"..what crimps go with what line/leader..what hole to use in the crimper, bench or hand, because of the "non-matching" rigging materials produced by several different companies.

Jinkai is a bit more expensive, but we feel it is well worth the extra $$ spend when rigging for big game.

Certainly, not the only way to accomplish the same goal, just our way.
One of the most sensible posts I have ever read.
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You may want to have a look at the Braid Power Crimper; it's pre-calibrated. No longer be unsure of just how much pressure is required to complete your crimp. Place the sleeve in the matching groove, then compress until the ratchet disengages. Pre-calibrated from 50lb - 500lb; titanium matte finish with non-slip grips.


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