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I picked up another Penn 50 wide. I need to know much 130# hollow core will fit on the spool before the mono header. I really dont want to pick up a 1200 yard spool and am hoping 600 yards will be enough. I'm planning on adding 150 to 200 yards of 80# mono.
I have the 130# JB on one of my 50's now but I like the idea of the blue line. I'm sure they are exactly the same other than the color. Which of the 2 do you prefer & why.
Thanks
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2002 Seaswirl Striper 2101cc Yamaha 150
Gloucester, Ma
I picked up another Penn 50 wide. I need to know much 130# hollow core will fit on the spool before the mono header. I really dont want to pick up a 1200 yard spool and am hoping 600 yards will be enough. I'm planning on adding 150 to 200 yards of 80# mono.
I have the 130# JB on one of my 50's now but I like the idea of the blue line. I'm sure they are exactly the same other than the color. Which of the 2 do you prefer & why.
Thanks
I use JB for making wind-ons but not for the main line. I'm staying with full spools of PowerPro. The only way you'll really find out is do some tests.
I picked up another Penn 50 wide. I need to know much 130# hollow core will fit on the spool before the mono header. I really dont want to pick up a 1200 yard spool and am hoping 600 yards will be enough. I'm planning on adding 150 to 200 yards of 80# mono.
I have the 130# JB on one of my 50's now but I like the idea of the blue line. I'm sure they are exactly the same other than the color. Which of the 2 do you prefer & why.
Thanks
you can get 750 yards of JB with a 150yds of 80 momoi no problem. If you want to use 100LB or 130LB topshot I would use 700 yds of 130 for a base layer.
Make loops than order some Top shots from Basil. His topshots come in anyway you want them and they are on a nice neat spool with a loop on the top end.
you can get 750 yards of JB with a 150yds of 80 momoi no problem. If you want to use 100LB or 130LB topshot I would use 700 yds of 130 for a base layer.
Make loops than order some Top shots from Basil. His topshots come in anyway you want them and they are on a nice neat spool with a loop on the top end.
I've used both, and find them equally good. The Momoi is slightly easier to splice in loops. Momoi has a slightly waxier coating, so I use the JB to make topshots/windons. (less likelyhood to slip)
FWIW, I know you can get 700 yards of 130lb Jerry Brown, with a 100 yard topshot on a 50VSW.
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A 50VSW will hold 600 yards of 130 JB with a 200yd 100lb mono topshot, with a little room to spare.
This is the answer I'm looking for. hanks guys. I am going with 80# mono so I would probably need about 700 yards of backing. Spools come in 600 or 1200 yards so I will see what the local shop will charge to fill it with backing.
Thanks again,
Frank
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2002 Seaswirl Striper 2101cc Yamaha 150
Gloucester, Ma
Make sure your local shop knows how to spool Hollow Core on your reel. It must be done under a fair amount of pressure (6-9lbs), which most normal mono line winders don't do properly.
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Local shop says about 600 yards of 130# JB at a cost of $92. plus tax. Sounds like a great deal. Done!
Thanks guys.
15 cents per yard is not much more than retail for a 600 yard spool and sounds like a hell of a deal, but I have never paid to have it done as I wind my own. It must be packed very tight or risk it burying into itself at higher drag settings/explosive runs. If it does not feel rock hard after being spooled it is too loose.
One process that works well to pack the spool tight is to run it out on your boat. put the rod in a rod holder and, away from other boats, let most of the line our while underway. reel the line it while someone is at teh helm steering. go fast enough to provide enough pressure and speed up as the length in the water shortens. I did this recently with a spinner with only a few hundred yards on it and it only took a few minutes. Line was tight and hard on the spool when I finished. Good poor man's way to spool up.
Yup, these guys have been around for a while. They sell the heavy gear Penns, Shimanos, 130's 80's 50's etc... & they are all fisherman. They have several line winders. One is is a heavy duty comercial winder just for the big stuff 50's, 80's 130's etc... They wear the face mask and the welding gloves and get it on there super tight. Splicing and top shots are extra of course. They also have the Mamoi diamond braid for the same price so now I'm undecided again.
I actually spooled one of my 50's myself. I had new hollow core ($185.00) on a 50 that I was selling. The line had only seen the water twice so I didnt want to throw that in with a nearly new 50VSW for $400. I just set the drag, had my buddy hold the reel and cranked on the other reel. I took a while and wiped me out but it's on there tight & even.
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2002 Seaswirl Striper 2101cc Yamaha 150
Gloucester, Ma
I just read the specs on the 50 VSW. Penn says it will take 1050yds of 150# braid with a 50yd top shot of 100# mono. Does this sound way off to you. They must be figuring solid core braid?
Frank
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2002 Seaswirl Striper 2101cc Yamaha 150
Gloucester, Ma
run it out on your boat. put the rod in a rod holder and, away from other boats, let most of the line our while underway. reel the line it while someone is at teh helm steering. go fast enough to provide enough pressure and speed up as the length in the water shortens. I did this recently with a spinner with only a few hundred yards on it and it only took a few minutes. Line was tight and hard on the spool when I finished. Good poor man's way to spool up.
This is also a good way to make absolutely sure all the line and your entire spool is soaked with saltwater down to the arbor. I don't recommend it. As the pressure increases on the line, the salt is leeched out to the sides, and when you pull it off next year, you may be sorry.
You beat me to the point. I hope all is well, besides the cost of fuel and time running around on the water is not worth it IMHO.
About two years ago I drove almost four hours round trip to spend some time with Basil. He showed how to make loop to loop connections with JB Hollow core and I watched him spool my Penn internationals and Avets reels. It was a great learning lesson for me to watch a professional. To this day I am still grateful to have had the experience.
When I am miles offshore and my drag starts singing, thinking of the line embedding into the spool is not what I want to think about.
Bignick1
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Originally Posted by Basil
run it out on your boat. put the rod in a rod holder and, away from other boats, let most of the line our while underway. reel the line it while someone is at teh helm steering. go fast enough to provide enough pressure and speed up as the length in the water shortens. I did this recently with a spinner with only a few hundred yards on it and it only took a few minutes. Line was tight and hard on the spool when I finished. Good poor man's way to spool up.
This is also a good way to make absolutely sure all the line and your entire spool is soaked with saltwater down to the hub. I don't recommend it. As the pressure increases on the line, the salt is leeched out to the sides, and when you pull it off next year, you may be sorry.
I agree with bignick1 and Basil. After meeting Basil in person at a fishing seminar this past winter and reading his posts on several websites for years, I decided to make the plunge and have him spool up my offshore reels with Jerry Brown hollow core. I drove to his shop, delivered the reels, went over the details and left feeling very confident I made the right decision.
Within a short time frame, Basil contacted me and said all the reels were ready. I drove to his shop and he had al but one reel ready. He intentionally did not spool one reel so he could show me (and my son) how he did it. He spent a lot of time with us making sure we understood. He also showed us how he served(sp) the line and made the wind on leaders. He wanted to make sure we could fix any problems that might occur while we were fishing.
I forgot to mention Basil also shared a lot of his knowledge on both visits. He went above and beyond my expectations. After seeing what he an his crew landed on the most recent long range trip off Mexico I think he can be considered an authority on the subject of 'heavy duty fishing.' I now feel confident on offshore trips knowing my reels were set up by a true professional.
run it out on your boat. put the rod in a rod holder and, away from other boats, let most of the line our while underway. reel the line it while someone is at teh helm steering. go fast enough to provide enough pressure and speed up as the length in the water shortens. I did this recently with a spinner with only a few hundred yards on it and it only took a few minutes. Line was tight and hard on the spool when I finished. Good poor man's way to spool up.
This is also a good way to make absolutely sure all the line and your entire spool is soaked with saltwater down to the arbor. I don't recommend it. As the pressure increases on the line, the salt is leeched out to the sides, and when you pull it off next year, you may be sorry.
Better to do it on an HD140 linewinder.
Hmmm ... interesting.
It will discontinue to absorb salt water like a sponge when spooled with an HD140 linewinder.
I third what bignick and Tuna Man have said about Basil. Without a doubt, Basil has been the most help to me in our pursuit of offshore fishing. I can't count the times he has answered questions over the phone and provided advise free of charge. And his sessions at the Canyon Runner seminars are so valuable.
Plus his JB per yard prices are very reasonable and what he charges to spool reels is very reasonable. He even told me how to load a reel myself without a HD line winder. I tried it once loading 600 yds and I swore I would never do it again. I now just send my reels to him if I need anything spooled. To get the tension and to do it right is not easy. He is the best and his wind-on leaders and topshots are the top of the line.
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