New Regs for NY

[parkerman]

Got this from another site DON"T KNOW IF IT TRUE OR NOT YET

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On Tuesday April 20, the NYS DEC released the 2004 regulation on Summer
Flounder (Fluke), Scup (Porgies), Bluefish and Striped Bass.

Under emergency regulations:
Effective Immediately:

The Fluke regs are:
3 Fish, 17", 5/15-9/6/04

With this as the current regs, the opinion of the NYFTTA attorneys is to
not challenge the regs.

This is a 20% reduction based on a three year average. However, it is not
the 48% reduction required by the ASMFC.
This is a non compliant regulation. The ASMFC may challenge the decision
of New York and hold the State out of compliance.
If this occurs, complications and regulatory changes may occur.
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The Porgy regs are:
Under a 58% reduction, the following will take effect immediately under
emergency regulations:

11", 20 fish, 6/16-11/30 (Closed 10/17-10/31/04)

Seabass:
There will be a two week closure, however it was going into effect on Sept.
6, but MAY be changed as not to have both Fluke and Seabass closed on Sept.
7.

The following regulatory changes will take effect later in the year. They
will not take effect immediately because they will be place through normal
channels and not emergency actions:

Bluefish
15 pp. no size limit
However there will be a 10 fish retention for juvenile bluefish.

Striped Bass:

1 fish 28" and 1 greater than 40" (this was NYFTTA's first position over 8
years ago)
party boats, 2 at 28"

[ArtW]

I was trying to check out the new Fluke Reg's. I find nothing on the NYS DEC website to support this. It looks like the proposal is still accepting comments until 4/23. The proposal is 17" with 7 limit open all year.

[TDuffy35]

Sources at NYFTTA say that the above regs have been indeed set.

Anything could happen though and there may be changes.

[parkerman]

Go this web site and voice your opinion to NOAA. Just click the hyperlink and send a message.

http://www.nmfs.noaa.gov/fishnews/20...04.htm#anchor6

BTW I am starting to think BIRDMAN is right.

[BoatGuy]

Hey, New York/Long Island fisherman, we had better speak up!! The regulations we had are taking a beating. If we don't take a stand NY will soon have worse regulations, closed seasons or become a no fishing zone.

I agree with parkerman, voice your opinion now! As a start, let your feelings be known on this board. Voice your opinion to NOAA. Then take the next step and write you congressman and let them know you are a fisherman, are unhappy with the new regulations and support the Freedom to fish act.

Yes, YOU can make a difference!

[joe2nyc]

Those are fluke regulations are interesting "suggestions".*The second bass for private boats was long overdue.*

[parkerman]

Hi Joe..Yes they gave us two bass but the second one has to bo over 40". That is a hell of a second fish, meanwhile the party boat angler gets 2 at 28.

Still scratching my head over that one

We fish the same water sometimes within yards of each other and they get 2 at 28...go figure.

Sounds like they tossed us a bone with the second fish,(bass) to make up for the fluke screwing we got

Bet the DEC will be real busy this year, sorry to say.

[den1]

I don't get the bass regulation for only two bass per recreational boat at 28" and 40" or over. That makes no sense.
There sure are more bass than there is forage for them, a little culling won't hurt a thing.
Just a thought

[DarthBaiter]

The 28" and 40" for bass is just a token. It's so we can keep a trophy if we catch it. I don't like this idea at all. The 40"+ fish are the spawners. Leave em be, and let us have two smaller fish (they taste better anyway).
As for fluke, they been talking about the 18" 3 fish 17" 2 fish thing for a while now. Write, email, call and voice your opinion. Don't just b!tch and moan about it after the fact.

[Birdman]

As I have mentioned. I will take WHATEVER I wish. That is my dinner which has cost me 100's of thousands of dollars to get. So I will get it, eat it and enjoy it. And I will have a ball in court watching the DEC or whoever makes up the rules explain to a judge why Commercial fisherman who take 99% of the fish in the area are treated complete different than me a recreational fisherman. There are many laws against partial treatment of any kind. AND I WILL BE DAMNED IF MY RIGHTS ARE TAKEN AWAY!!!!!!

[parkerman]

At First I thought you where just a rebelous type of guy...but I am starting to think your way maybe not as vocal but your ideas are in the right direction.

Tell me one thing, if this happened to say a bunch of us, no matter where we are from can you get us a lawyer, or better yet are you a lawyer, to fight this for us as one group of defendents. Naturally this would have to be an opened ended list of defendants to add on to as the season progressed and summons build up.

Some of us are not familair with the leagal process and the cost involved, but I am and it will COST!!!

I am more then willing to go along with this as long as you have some sort of plan and dollar amount.

If you are DEAD SERIOUS ABOUT THIS let me know, I have a big enough set to go along with you, ask Big E he will tell you.

Bottom line.... BS walks and you know the rest

If anyone else deciedes to join in and really get this going, let us know.