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Old 01-11-2009, 05:15 PM   #1
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Default Offshore Angler Ocean Master 4000

Anyone ever used these reels? From what I'm hearing from guys who do own them, it's a decent reel for the money. Still though, if anyone has any recommendations for a similar price range, I'm game. Hate making hasty reel investments that I go on to regret. Thanks in advance
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Old 01-11-2009, 09:46 PM   #2
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i've never opened up this one, but i have serviced several like it. i think you will be disappointed with it's performance. it is likely that it will not last long unless you can service it yourself. so unless you are so inclined, i would recommend that find something else. can you tell us what kind of line weight, line capacity and drag range are you looking for? alan
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There was an earlier thread in which, I believe, someone said that, having open up both, the guts of the Ocean Master were the same as the Shimano TLD. Don't know the significance of that but you may want to do a search.
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Old 01-12-2009, 07:55 AM   #4
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listen to alantani, he is the fishing reel zenmaster
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Old 01-12-2009, 08:49 AM   #5
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I have four of those reels that I use for mostly for deep water flounder fishing. All are loaded with 30# braid. After four years of use, all still work as they did out of the box. On our annual FL Keys trip, we use them for grouper in Hawks Channel with no problem (including a Goliath of a hundred or so). I'd probably buy them again.
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Old 01-12-2009, 09:51 AM   #6
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gig, thanks. guys, glad to hear that, but the ocean master 4000 that i saw was a calcutta copy. i went to the bass pro shops website to take a second look and it's here......



http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/st...:referralID=NA

sandy, i know there have been several tld copies with canvas drags. these ocean masters will function just as well as the single speed tld's, until the canvas drag washer gets wet oily. ag, if this is is the baitcaster that you also have, then i'm glad to hear that they are still working well, but is the drag sticking at all, because i would expect them to be by now. four years ago, i am certain that they were not using greased carbon fiber. thanks for the info, guys! alan
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Old 01-12-2009, 01:34 PM   #7
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Default RE: Offshore Angler Ocean Master 4000

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Anyone ever used these reels? From what I'm hearing from guys who do own them, it's a decent reel for the money. Still though, if anyone has any recommendations for a similar price range, I'm game. Hate making hasty reel investments that I go on to regret. Thanks in advance
I opened one up at the Bass Pro that just opened in Richmond. I was opening the Ocean Master in the store because I was looking to replace the Roddy by Penn reels I had been using. The guts of the Ocean Master 400 are nearly identical to the Roddy by Penn 175, of which I have 2. The primary difference is that you can get the Roddy on ebay for less than 40 bucks. Both are Made-in-China econoreels.

I used my Roddy 175's for 3 seasons on one, 2 on another, for inshore salt water fishing and freshwater for large catfish. They cast very well, and for the price have smooth drags. I hooked something large at Cape Henry in August on one of them, and i the reel did not function properly after that. I got spooled, so I tell everyone it was an enormous cobia. Realistically, it was likely just been a huge ray or a Virginia-class attack sub going out for sea trials.

Bottom line, if you are satisfied with a reel that is cheap but will only last 2-3 years, you are spending too much money for the Ocean Master. I am switching over to the Shimano Cardiff, which is only $20 more than the Ocean Master but is made much better.
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Old 01-26-2009, 06:16 PM   #8
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Sorry, I lost this thread for a while. Alan, thanks for all the info. I am in no way set on this reel, I just had it recommended to me by a friend who bought on last year and had pretty good success with it. I certainly don't need a top of the line reel, but if you are worried about its durability, then I am open to more options. I am trying to find a relatively small baitcaster that I can use for everything from tog fishing to possibly surf casting in the right conditions. I realize this is a very wide spread, but if there is just a reputable all around baitcaster that anyone can recommend, I will definitely give it a look. Thanks for all the help
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Downtotheriver,

I think what is being said here about these reels not lasting long is right on the money. I have a Bass Pro near me that sells all of their "refurbished" rods, reels, etc. I can tell you that there are certain reels that always seem to be available on the refurbished rack and others that you never see (or very rarely see). Read into that what you like. At this store, the refurbished ones sell for about $50.

Now, having said that...I own 4 of the OM4000's and use them regularly as "utility" reels. I have two of them on my sabiki rods and 2 on rods I have set up to cast jigs to hard tails and bonito. In a nutshell I use them for my bait rods and have been happy. The way I look at it, if I have trouble with the reel on a bait rod I will set it aside to be fixed later and all I have lost is a baitfish.

Once i have bait and we are ready to tournament or trophy fish, I am switching over to my penn's or shimano's depending on what i am after. I say stack the odds in your favor as much as possible when it comes down to catching the trophy fish...or money fish.

Last comment...that Ocean Master Gold Cup Inshore rod you had in the photo is a really nice rod. I use them all them time and really do like them. I bet I have 10 of them in various sizes and would buy every one of them again.

Good luck!
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I had 2 of the OM4000's Neither held up for much more than a year. Granted I am tough on equipment and use it 3-4 times a week, I replaced them with Shimano Cardiffs and knock on wood they are still bullet proof. Go to the Bass Pro website and read the reviews on those reels, seems there were quite a few last time I checked.

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Old 01-28-2009, 02:39 PM   #11
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I have 2 of the OM 4000s and have been very satisfied with them. 3+ years of use with no mechanical issues. Routine clean and lube annually. Use them for striper and flounder. Smooth drag and cast well. Edit: to be fair, I am NOT tough on equipment... primarily weekend use spring through early winter.

The are not the same as any penn or shimano. They are the same as the browning reels.

BTW, the OM 25's design is the same as the Shimano TLD 25. Parts are almost identical. I've compared both schematics side by side, as well as serviced both. And the OMs use carbon fiber drags, not canvas.
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Old 01-28-2009, 07:01 PM   #12
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thanks for the info. I'm really not all that rough on my equipment either. I simply do not have the means to get out as much as I would like, so in all likelihood, I would only use these things between 20-30 times a year. That's why I don't want to drop a huge amount of money, but I also want something that is going to work well for me.
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Old 01-29-2009, 04:38 PM   #14
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I am not a fan of much of their stuff in general...clothes, reels, etc.......However, I actually have not been disapointed with their higher end rods...they have been pretty decent.....
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