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Old 01-11-2009, 12:33 PM   #1
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Does anyone have a block and tackle set up for their center console? I am trying to figure out the best way to design to rig one for my boat but haven't seen any center console set ups.
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Old 01-11-2009, 06:16 PM   #2
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More info? Do you mean to rig the T-top equivalent of a ginpole or like the Albin 26 CC come-along type tackle or riggable-when-needed electric winch for tipping the PIA hinged console forward for access to the under-console engine?
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Old 01-11-2009, 06:29 PM   #3
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TTaxi - 1/11/2009 9:16 PM More info? Do you mean to rig the T-top equivalent of a ginpole or like the Albin 26 CC come-along type tackle or riggable-when-needed electric winch for tipping the PIA hinged console forward for access to the under-console engine?
What are you fishing . . . shark . . . blue fin tuna ? ? ?

By yourself or a bunch of guys?

A permanent set up or a removable set up?
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Fishing for bluefin tuna. Would like to have a removable set up, usually 3 guys on the boat.
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What size boat (length and beam) and are you thinking of bringing it over the side or the transom?

Is your t-top strong enough to take the strain?

Are you willing to bolt and drill something to your boat?
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Old 01-12-2009, 04:20 AM   #6
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I have never seen one. There is nothing stong enough on a center console boat to hold the load, so you will have to build one using a tri-pod type design. Keep in mind a six foot high pole lifting a 600 lb fish, with a safety factor of only two, considering expected tilting and pulling angles, will need to hold more than 3,000 lbs - a well designed unit with a safety factor of 5, would need to hold 10,000+ lbs at the top of the pole and would also point load the deck (assuming a 4" pole diameter and no base) at over 5,000 lbs/sqft.
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Old 01-12-2009, 07:12 AM   #7
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Boat is a 29 Regulator. I wouldn't think the t-top is strong enough to support the weight. Last one we caught 4 guys drug it over the transom. Would it work if I connected it to a cleat mid ship and used it to drag them over the transom?
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T-bone123 - 1/12/2009 10:12 AM Boat is a 29 Regulator. I wouldn't think the t-top is strong enough to support the weight. Last one we caught 4 guys drug it over the transom. Would it work if I connected it to a cleat mid ship and used it to drag them over the transom?
Maybe tie single rope to a cleat on each side and connect the block and tackle to the centre . . . this sitributing the load . . . I have never done this so it is just an idea

Dragging a big fish over the transom must bruise the meat
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Old 01-12-2009, 03:06 PM   #9
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If you have a tuna door just carry a standard "come-a-long" that can be found at any hardware store. Use a rope and the "come-a-long" to pull from the cleat on the bow. Get the boat moving forward slowly to get the fish to plane behind the boat and winch him in. For big tuna you may have to use a gaff to stand them up through tight tuna doors. You would be amazed at what will fit through the door with a little force. The picture is a 624 pound mako through the door on a 31 contender. I unbolted the door before dragging him in so I would not break the door.

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If you don't have a door, you can grab one rail with a 3' long stainless channel to spread the load, go accross the beam to the other rail with the nylon strap, lay a rubber pad over that rail to save the fiberglass and winch in a tail roped fish over the rail.

The side of the boat with the fish on it will lower with its weight to improve your angle and you can add your own weight as needed.

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Old 01-12-2009, 08:42 PM   #11
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Or.... , as a flashback suggestion,you could put together a "teeterboard" which could allow you haul a maybe couplefew-hundred lb fish over the side-single handed with much less damage as rail-raking, but it takes a bit of space and may not handle the much bigger fish, though some folks definitely used them for GBFT. Looks like a culling board but when needed is slid 1/2 over the side until a "middle"-stop underneath for the gunwale prevents it from going father overboard (& the "stop" tied to secure the whole works to the boat.) The approx. <2/3 outboard end is in the water and the fish nosed up on it, then either muscled up the slide for smaller fish too big for available crew to just lift over, or block & tackled/come-alonged in from dual attachments at opposite-side strong spring & aft cleats until the fish teeters & slides down into the cockpit.

Since the fish is sliding up & down an incline rather than being lifted up & over much less force is necessary.

On my old 23' Sea Craft Sceptre , for travelling I'd keep it either gunwale to gunwale over the motorwell with handline or cockpit-deployed-anchor baskets secured on it to clear the cockpit or just secured on edge under one gunwale. Mine was about 8'L & 22"W, bolted & epoxy fastened 3/4"plywood deck, 2x4 raised edge-down rails & short lower (edge-up ,fore & aft) stop, all edges rounded ,well-sanded and carefully white epoxy primed/painted. Looked decent for what it was, but admittedly not the most elegant... until needed. Definitely not for the masses but sure was handy for me at times in the 'mid/late 80's and early '90'.
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I like the come-a-long the best... Cheap, easy, mimal installation needed, no party tricks or physics equations to solve.
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Old 01-13-2009, 05:36 AM   #13
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i tried it a couple of ways,i mounted a trailer winch on a plate that was welded on a tube to go into one of my rod holder almost midship and pulled the fish in tailfirst over the gunnel/stern.then another method{requiring more labor} was bending a 36x60" rectangular piece of 3/4"plywood{did that by making 1/4" cuts, length wise 2 "apart widthwise.then bending the plywood on a form and glassing it.i then mounted a couple of angles on the bottom and on the gunnel,near the stern with holes to accomadate a shaft that was pinned on both ends to swivel and then use the winch and pull parallal with the gunnel.this is another idea just came up with would probably work if you had midship gunnels.,is weld a 2 1/2" thick wall alum.pipe inside a 2 1/2"angle the full length of the gunnel,drill a hole at each end of the pipe/angle and thread a 3/8"rope through the pipe and tie it to the pipe and cleats.then attach a come a long.and hopefully it won't bend
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You will have to have strong backing plates and a reinforced Ttop for this...

I run a rope from the opposite side mid-cleat, up across all the Ttop rails (four of them in my case), then attach a come-a-long to the end of the rope. This spreads the load to both the cleat and the Ttop. Haven't had a real big fish yet, but we did use it on a 450#er. Normally two of us on the boat. I've added a second come-a-long and a pulley on the back of the Ttop, as the biggest problem we had was getting the darn thing's tail up and over the side. It kept getting hung up on the rubrail. The good thing about this system is we can lower the fish slowly to the deck, so it doesn't get dropped and bruise the meat.

JJ, what are the dimensions on your door? It must be alot bigger than my door!
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Thanks for all the replys. I think I am going to try the come along methond and bring the fish through the transom door next time.
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Old 01-18-2009, 08:56 AM   #16
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I have a small, light 1000# rated block and tackle on my boat. If needed, just tie the fixed end to one of the aluminum top supports and haul away. Takes up very little space and can be ready in under a minute.
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Old 01-18-2009, 12:26 PM   #17
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*Block on your midship cleat.*

Rope around your BFT's tail, run the rope through the block, attach the bitter end to a sea anchor/ drift sock, slowly throttle up......in the door.
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