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Old 01-10-2009, 06:14 PM   #1
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Default Shimano 6500 or Penn 950S?

Hello Forum Members,

I just joined the forum since this is a good place to get some opinions. I've got some Amex points to use and would like to buy a set-up for tossing to a blue fin if I get the chance, or maybe just trolling a rig with it behind the boat. I have a set up with a Shimano 6500 but haven't hooked into a tuna with it yet. I have also read the Penn 950s is a good reel for this application. I am looking to have two spinning set ups onboard. So, what do you say? Penn or Shimano?

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Old 01-11-2009, 09:19 AM   #2
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Default RE: Shimano 6500 or Penn 950S?

Dave,

You don't say which Shimano 6500, so I'm guessing the Baitrunner 6500B? If it comes down to a choice between that and the Penn 950 SSm -- go with the Penn.

The Penn has an aluminum frame and sideplates, the Shimano is graphite, which is much less strong. Since you'll be targeting Bluefin Tuna, I'd want the physically stronger reel. Depending on your line requirements, I'd also take a look at Penn's 760 Slammer or Liveliner. Well built and a super drag.

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Old 01-11-2009, 10:12 AM   #3
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Hello Forum Members,

I just joined the forum since this is a good place to get some opinions. I've got some Amex points to use and would like to buy a set-up for tossing to a blue fin if I get the chance, or maybe just trolling a rig with it behind the boat. I have a set up with a Shimano 6500 but haven't hooked into a tuna with it yet. I have also read the Penn 950s is a good reel for this application. I am looking to have two spinning set ups onboard. So, what do you say? Penn or Shimano?

Thanks,

Cappy Dave
I would say both are undersized........go with a Shimano Spheros 14000 or 18000. You can get 500-600 yards of 50# or 65# braid on there and you will have 44# of drag. You chances of getting spooled will be much less.

If you have to pick I'd go with the Penn (I am assuming the Shimano is a Baitrunner) Metal Frame and almost twice the spool capacity(less drag than the Spheros though). I'd bet a bluefin will break that graphite frame on a Baitrunner in half a second.
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Old 01-12-2009, 02:59 AM   #4
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Default Re: Shimano 6500 or Penn 950S?

I would recommend Penn 760 Slammer
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Old 01-12-2009, 04:54 AM   #5
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I know you didn't mention Fin Nor but I think you should throw that into the mix. The Offshore series is awesome.
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Old 01-12-2009, 07:27 AM   #6
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Default Re: Shimano 6500 or Penn 950S?

Undersized. Go with one of the upper shimano's. The Penns are now made in china.

My buddy just picked up a nice reel on this site, slightly used, for a great price. Pretty much half off retail.

Just make sure what you buy has the drag system foirfor the application.

I actually have a 6500B set up on a custom rod, the rod was built specifically for yellowfin in the 100lb range and it cost $160, and haven't been able to put it to the test yet, but I am heading to the bahamas where I hope to challenge the set up. check back with me and I'll let ya know what I think.
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Old 01-12-2009, 08:04 AM   #7
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Default Re: Shimano 6500 or Penn 950S?

the penn has about the best drag $140 can get you. They are now made in china but I haven't really heard any horror stories yet. I have 2 for casting to 60-120 lb sbft, they are big bulky and built like a tank. if you aren't gonna go stella $600-900 this is the cheaper reel I would want in my hands. Spool it with 50-60 spectra with a loop to loop fluoro leader and go get em.
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Old 01-12-2009, 09:45 AM   #8
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Default Re: Shimano 6500 or Penn 950S?

I cant speak for that specific model Penn, but I have slowly moved away from Penn products and am now buying Shimano reels. I have had several Penn reels go bad on me and the quality just doesn't seem to be the same as before. I agree with the rest of the crowd in thinking the 6500 will be undersized for Bluefin tuna. We use them in SE Florida for kings, dolphin, and sails and they work perfectly.. Excellent choice for livebaiting..
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Old 01-12-2009, 07:34 PM   #9
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Default Re: Shimano 6500 or Penn 950S?

Thanks for all the input. I am leaning towards the Penn but will check out the Spheros as well. I want to get to a tackle shop and check them out. The 6500 I own is a baitrunner. I like the reel and have brought in some chomper blues on Stellwagen Bank while targeting tuna. I really want to see how it performs with a football blue fin. It's spooled with 50# braid. I just started tuna fishing so I'm working on building my arsenal slowly.
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Old 01-13-2009, 08:08 AM   #10
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Any opinion on the Shimano Saragosa? I have been looking at these for grouper jigging. Metal body and spool and 44# of drag.
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Old 01-13-2009, 09:07 AM   #11
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The 6500 Bait runner will get destroyed by the tuna that were on the bank this past year.. Comparing A 20 lb bluefish to a 100 lb tuna is like compareing a guppy to a marlin. They are not even close to being in the same area of the same class..

If you go the penn Route go for the 950SSM

It is a bit bigger then the 760 slammer which only hold 300 yds of 20lb mono
The 950SSM holds 300 yds of 30 lb mono

In braid terms

760 slammer will hold 400 yards of 50lb braid
950SSM will hold 500+ of 65Lb braid
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The 6500 Bait runner will get destroyed by the tuna that were on the bank this past year.. Comparing A 20 lb bluefish to a 100 lb tuna is like compareing a guppy to a marlin. They are not even close to being in the same area of the same class..

If you go the penn Route go for the 950SSM

It is a bit bigger then the 760 slammer which only hold 300 yds of 20lb mono
The 950SSM holds 300 yds of 30 lb mono

In braid terms

760 slammer will hold 400 yards of 50lb braid
950SSM will hold 500+ of 65Lb braid

i agree
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The 6500 Bait runner will get destroyed by the tuna that were on the bank this past year.. Comparing A 20 lb bluefish to a 100 lb tuna is like compareing a guppy to a marlin. They are not even close to being in the same area of the same class..

If you go the penn Route go for the 950SSM

It is a bit bigger then the 760 slammer which only hold 300 yds of 20lb mono
The 950SSM holds 300 yds of 30 lb mono

In braid terms

760 slammer will hold 400 yards of 50lb braid
950SSM will hold 500+ of 65Lb braid

i agree
Me too. 6500 Baitrunner not a good choice for tuna. My 6500's were ditched this year after learning what multiple 30 pound snook in a day will do to them. If a 30# snook can pull a locked down drag on a 6500 I'd hate to see what a med-large tuna would do to the drag and stem. (stem flex is an issue too)

Spheros 14000 or 18000 with 65 braid would be my choice.


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Old 01-13-2009, 02:54 PM   #14
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Default Re: Shimano 6500 or Penn 950S?

We have both the baitrunner 6500 and a Penn 850 metal. I don't trust the baitrunner with tunas so I usually go to my Penn for casting. We caught one fish on the Penn in the 150 lbs range and it stipped the gears inside halfway through the fight and it took us a while to get it in because the angler would get one or two cranks in, the reel would kick back, and then another couple turns..repeat...when i took the reel home and opened it up, there were metal shards everywhere. I wold spend the extra 40 bucks or so and get the Shimano Spheros 18000FB. I personally don't have one yet but I have heard nothing but great things about them and will prolbably pick one up in June
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get on E-Bay and find you some old 950's and have them gone through.cheap and they will last forever.
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Old 02-02-2009, 06:19 PM   #16
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Default Re: Shimano 6500 or Penn 950S?

Thanks for the tips. I ended up buying the Fin-Nor 6500 Offshore series rod an reel combo. The only difference in the Offshore series reels is the size of the spool, so if I want to add the larger spool I can. Now, all that's needed is Spring and the fish.
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Old 02-02-2009, 06:42 PM   #17
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Default Re: Shimano 6500 or Penn 950S?

what do you think about the 9500ss for 80-160lb.tuna?
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Old 02-02-2009, 07:55 PM   #18
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the 9500ss will get the job done, but id say itll get you one fish before retirement.

as for the saragosas chumley, they are great reels. If you want it for throwing at tuna I think its the best reel before you go to the stella.
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Old 02-02-2009, 09:46 PM   #19
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I have always sworn by penn. I have used 850's for everything from blackfin tuna to bruiser AJ's to sails. The new penn spinners are JUNK! I have snapped 2 handles right at the elbow while fighting grouper. A buddy of mine lent me a stradic 8000 ($199), on a trevalla 80/200 rod, and it has become my new favorite reel. I used a spheros 1200 yesterday on a trevalla rod (the reel is only $129), and believe that I will be investing in one soon.....spend the extra money and get the Shimano
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