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Old 01-06-2009, 05:26 PM   #1
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We are going to trailer my buddy's 27 Outrage to Venice next month to fish the Midnight Lump. Does anyone have any general pointers, where to stay, what to bring, etc. Thanks in Advance.
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do a search for "Lump" in the gulf coast forum...plenty of info to get you started
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We are going to trailer my buddy's 27 Outrage to Venice next month to fish the Midnight Lump. Does anyone have any general pointers, where to stay, what to bring, etc. Thanks in Advance.
My friend just came back,read his report.
http://www.noreast.com/discussion/Vi...opic_ID=122060

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Old 01-06-2009, 06:15 PM   #4
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Wow, how big was that one wahoo??
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Make it easy on yourself and trailer your boat to Grand Isle or Fourchon. That way you won't have to run the foggy a$$ river! It's the same distance from either place. More things closer in Grand Isle/Fourchon as well!

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Agree with Gmack - if you have never been before, stay on Grand Isle so you don't have to run the river in the fog. Had a boat in Venice for 3 years and never got over the pucker factor running down the passes in fog so thick you could barely see your front running lights - traffic from oil tankers to pirogues. Fishing the lump is work, but the rewards can be great. The first day or two, even if you don't catch the yellowfins, you will be amazed at everything else you see and catch. Stick with it - chumming for 8 hours a day can get old, but when a couple of 150 lb yellowfin cruise thru your chum line, it makes it all worth while.
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Thanks for the advice. If the fish aren't at the lump should we have an alternative game plan?
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Thanks for the advice. If the fish aren't at the lump should we have an alternative game plan?
I would.
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Troll for wahoo, jig or live bait for grouper and amberjack. If you have a large boat you could shoot out to a floater or two as well.
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Take lots of anchor line at least 600' anf 30 feet of heavy chain, if it wont fit in the locker get a 30 gallon trash can to store it in
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Wow, how big was that one wahoo??
this one came in right at 90 lbs. looks real close to the same size. http://www.thehulltruth.com/forums/t...27594&posts=15
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Old 01-07-2009, 02:10 AM   #12
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You might want to hook up with someone that has fished the lump or hire a charter capt for a day or two.That there will save you alot of headachs and time.This time of the year,the Mississippi River is on the rise.Alot of trash gets lifted off the banks(TREES) that are just under the surface.Then the river water temp runs around 45-50 drgs and if you have a warm day that is over that 50 drg mark,with little to no wind,you have very thick fog.Then throw on top of that,if you run out of SW pass,you have ships and boats.

Things to have.You do need your fed permit for the boat.Of course all saftey equipment for off shore.Good tackle with different size leaders.600' off rode and 20' to 30' of chain and a very good anchor.Throw in a anchor ball too.200 lbs of pogies for chumming.If you can,buy it in advance and cut it up before leaving the dock.A good washdown system in the boat,rain gear,including rubber boots for everyone on board.I don't know if you ever fished the winter offshore,but some days can be hell out there.Always know the weather.Know when the fronts have passed and if any are coming the day you plan your trip.Cold fronts passing out there can be very very bad and very fast moving.We talking 50 to 75 mph winds in the matter of a 1/2 hour or less.Don't get fooled with calm weather before heading out there.Plan on the parking lot on weekend days.I have seen over 150 boats out there on clear days.Give yourself room and plan on how the boat drifts when dropping your anchor.There are alot of clowns that don't do this.For most,think safety all the time.Things can go wrong very fast out there.If you have two VHF radios,keep one on 16 and the other on 68.Please keep the bs down on the radio.Alot of charter capts and non charter boats start talking sh-t if things are slow.Good luck on your window.

Oh,first trip,be happy if you hook up on a couple big tuna.Keep someone chumming at all times is a must no matter if fish are there or not.Keep your gafts handy and do have a spare at that.Trying to lift a 150lb tuna over the side is a bit-h if seas are greater the 3' chop and it will take 2-3 people to do so.
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I agree with staying Grand Isle, Venice is rough to say the least. If you do stay in Venice, the best place is the motel at Cypress Cove. The best food is at Venice Marina. Buy everything you need prior to getting south of N.O. If running out of Venice, hire a guide the first time, lots of fog, large ships, sand bars, lots of floaters coming down the Miss. Be careful, its a different world fishing their than most places!
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Hire a capt for the first 2-3 days . . .going rate is $350 / day, and it is money well spent.

The lump is what it is and there are some big fish, but plan B saves the day sometimes. Good luck.
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I'll be fishing out of Venice the 6th, 7th and 8th of February, just got invited to fill a spot that opened up.[img]../images/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/img]I'm very excited, I've never done the tuna thing before.Full moon is the 9th. How will this affect the YTF bite?
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The lump hasn't really turned on. They've been pounding the fish at the floaters from 100lb yellowfin and bull dolphin and even marlin. Think you might be wasting your time at the lump. The wahoo bite has been fantastic too. So bring your wire leader and plenty of baits to troll at the rigs in 200-400'.
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I really don't like fishing the lumps at all. I've done it before, but don't plan on ever doing it again unless the fishing just gets incredible there. I really think it's over rated, but that's just my opinion.

I really think the floaters hold more fish. I don't kow how much fuel that boat hold, but it's very possible you'll need to bring extra.

I just did the trip over the weekend: http://www.thehulltruth.com/forums/t...31660&posts=15

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how far are the floaters
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how far are the floaters
They're everywhere! Just depends on how far you want to run. Sign up on Hilton's, and it'll give you all the coordinates.

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I really don't like fishing the lumps at all. I've done it before, but don't plan on ever doing it again unless the fishing just gets incredible there. I really think it's over rated, but that's just my opinion.

I really think the floaters hold more fish. I don't kow how much fuel that boat hold, but it's very possible you'll need to bring extra.

I just did the trip over the weekend: http://www.thehulltruth.com/forums/t...31660&posts=15

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The Lump USED to be incredible years ago before it was widely known. I used to fish it back in the mid 90's and could stay out there all day long on a 5 knot, slick seas Saturday w/o ever seeing another boat. Back then, BIG YF were almost guaranteed trolling or chumming. Big AJ's and wahoo were also common. These days it is just plain over-fished and it's really begining to show from all Ive read in the past 2 years or so. When it started getting really popular, there were some very large makos being landed. Probably had something to do with the thousands and thousands of pounds of chum going into the water. I won't fish it anymore and haven't for years. It just got rediculous with 80+ boats out there on a good weather day-- a lot of them Yahoos. Even if you did get hooked up with a big YF, you'd probably lose him in someone else's anchor rope. I once even saw a guy in a 20' bateau (aluminum, flat bottom jon boat for you yanks) out there--- 20 miles offshore in the VERY unpredictable winter weather. Got pictures of that somewhere around here. There have also been a few boats sunk there over the years.

These days it's just a great place for guides to bring out of state customers and is not really a big producer anymore. But it does sell lots of trips!
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