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Old 12-11-2008, 08:35 AM   #1
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Default Downrigger, Electric or manual?

I've never had a downrigger, but am thinking of installing one on the new boat. Do I want an electric one? Or are they just a pain in the bottom? Te boat is already wired for it, would just need to add the plug/connector receptacle where I mount it. But is it worth it, and the extra money for the motorized downrigger?

or should I just get Penn 600 manual unit? What's the skinny dudes!!!!
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Electric all the way.If you are in charge, you can reel up the rod as it comes to the surface without any fuss from cranking the downrigger.If it wasn't for the cost everyone would use electrics.I have had 2 electric cannons for 10 years .Besides a couple of wiring issues they are the best way to downrigger fish.............no doubt about it.
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Electric all the way.If you are in charge, you can reel up the rod as it comes to the surface without any fuss from cranking the downrigger.If it wasn't for the cost everyone would use electrics.I have had 2 electric cannons for 10 years .Besides a couple of wiring issues they are the best way to downrigger fish.............no doubt about it.
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Old 12-11-2008, 08:56 AM   #4
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I run 4 electrics (Big Jon Pro Tournaments) on my boat. If I had to hand crank a
12# rigger ball up from 135' down, more than once in a day, I'd either buy electrics
or stay at the dock!
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Old 12-11-2008, 11:06 AM   #5
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What are you going to use them for - if it trolling for Striped Bass in 20-30' of water alng the beach, the manual ones are a better choice - we use two of the Penn's for that purpose.
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Cannons have telescoping booms.. good feature to have. I have manuals but dont run them frequently.
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Old 12-11-2008, 01:24 PM   #7
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Electrics

Electrics

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I have used Scotties, Big John and Cannon electric downriggers and I prefer Cannon

They have a new saltwater version of the Cannon downriggers that have a stainless spool rather than the plastic spools . . . if you use heavy mono instead of wire cable the tension caused by the stretch of the mono can split a plastic reel

Scotties have plastic reels. I don't remember what the Big Johns had.

I did own a penn manual but was used for shallow trolling for walleye in a river, by freighter canoe, on only 20 feet of water, and with a 6 lb cannon ball. Not the solution for deep trolling.

Also, Cannon will stand up to higher speed trolling woith a z-wing. Scott and Big John will not . . . don't ask how I know

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Electric without a question. I run 4 Walker electrics. Everyone's got their preference but I think they're all pretty decent these days. If you're looking to save a little money, buy some used ones but get electric. As previously mentioned, they're easier and faster to set with only one guy rigging lines. When we switch baits or need to clear a line, we just hit the switch and reel in our lines while the rigger brings up the ball. For salmon, the early morning hot bite doesn't always last real long and the faster we get lines back in the water, the more fish. I also think you're more likely to switch out baits, check for fouled lines, change depths, etc. if you don't have to deal with the hassel of cranking up a 12 lb ball.

One other advantage is if you're stacking lines. One guy can set two rods on the same rigger with out needing a second guy to crank it down. On our boat we often stack and two guys can have four lines in the water inside of a minute or two.

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Old 12-11-2008, 02:01 PM   #9
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If you can stand the costs, go electric. Fish hits, you grab rod and hit button to bring ball up and you spend all your time fighting the fish instead of cranking downrigger up. I was lucky, my wife suggested the electrics and I didn't argue . Preference, I love my Scottys with lifetime warranty.
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Old 12-11-2008, 03:12 PM   #10
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What are you going to use them for - if it trolling for Striped Bass in 20-30' of water alng the beach, the manual ones are a better choice - we use two of the Penn's for that purpose.
Well, looks like EVERYONE says "Get Electric", except LI32. BUT, LI32 might be onto something!! Because, I plan to use it for Striper fishing, in, ah, errrrr umm, 20 to 30' of water probably most of the time!!

So knowing this now, that is really won't be used in deep water, should I still get electric?
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Old 12-11-2008, 04:11 PM   #11
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Electric all the way
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Old 12-11-2008, 04:21 PM   #12
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If your crew is small( you and one other person or single handed) the electric downrigger is nice. However, if you usually have a larger crew then a manual is just fine. A monkey (inexperienced crew member) can reel up the downrigger as long as you are not short handed. The difference in price will buy a lot of bait.
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Electrics hands down.

If in shallower waters or down at the bottom, the electrics make it very easy to pull the ball up a few feet and avoid hanging up.

You may think you will fish only 20-30', but if you have to go deeper you'll find yourself resisting if you have manuals.

I sometimes send them deep (up to 300' down and don't hesitate with the 15" cannon ball and dyneema line -- wouldn't even consider with manual units).
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Sorry to jump on your thread but I have a BigJon electric that I would be willing to trade. I'm looking for outriggers or a tuna reel 30# or 50#. I neaver used it. It,sin great shape.
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If you plan to use a downrigger in shallower water and you want to follow the contours of the bottom as the depth varies then the Cannon digitrol may be for you . . . it has a transducer and will keep the cannon ball the distance you want for the bottom . . . I fished walleye this way and it worked great

I had three downriggers and placed the digitrol in the centre following the bottom and ran the outside ones at shallower depths . . . just another killer option for you to consider
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If you plan to use a downrigger in shallower water and you want to follow the contours of the bottom as the depth varies then the Cannon digitrol may be for you . . . it has a transducer and will keep the cannon ball the distance you want for the bottom . . . I fished walleye this way and it worked great

I had three downriggers and placed the digitrol in the centre following the bottom and ran the outside ones at shallower depths . . . just another killer option for you to consider
Dead On, if your going to buy one rigger regardless of the depth your fishing, the
Digitroll is the one to have. Pretty pricey but for that beautiful Rampage, I would'nt
consider any thing less.
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scotty electrics!

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Yes, crew is often "small" or just me, so that is definitely a factor. However, I do NOT want a big bulky mount as I will not be using this thing all that often, so when not in use, I would like the mount as flush and out of the way as possible. That Scotty thingy looks HUGE!!!#$%!#&!

The Digitroll sounds really cool, but I don't think I'm going to utilize it enought to be installing a ducer for it,... or want to pay that kind of $ for it.

So I think I need the smallest footprint electric unit. Thanks for the help guys.

Como no PM Sent. I have Penn 50 I would be willing to swap. Send pic and model info. Thanks.
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The Cannon mounts are real small Birdman.
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If you're looking to keep the mount low profile there's a few options. You can get a gimble mount adapter but I'm not a big fan of gimble mounts as the riggers just don't seem real secure. You can put a mounting plate on the boat but you're stuck with one location. All my stuff is mounted on a track system. Some is TracksTech http://www.traxstech.com/ and some is Bert's http://www.teclausa.com/bert/products.html . The stuff is interchangeable so you can mix and match based on what you like.

When you're not using it, the gear all slides out of the track. I really like the fact that I can easily reconfigure the boat based on what we're fishing, the size of the crew, and what kind of spread we're putting out. The rigger mounts are rock solid and there is abosolutely no movement once you lock it in place. They also have step pad inserts if a more finished look is prefered.



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