The Hull Truth - Boating and Fishing Forum

Alltackle.com
Go Back   The Hull Truth - Boating and Fishing Forum > BOATING FORUMS > SportFishing and Charters Forum
Search

Notices

Random Quote: i think we need a bigger boat
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 07-24-2008, 05:55 AM
  #1    
Admirals Club
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: kittery,maine
Posts: 1,359
Send a message via ICQ to marcus220
Default WHAT KNOT SHOULD I USE?

I HAVE A PENN STW 80 LOADED WITH BERKLEY WHIPLASH 200 LB. SOLID BRAID.I WANT TO ATTACH AT LEAST A 100 YD.200LB.TOPSHOT,I CAN'T USE A CHINESE FINGER SPLICE,RIGHT?WHAT KNOT WOULD YOU FOLKS RECCOMEND?THANKS MARC
marcus220 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2008, 07:36 AM
  #2    
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Gloucester
Posts: 729
Default Re: WHAT KNOT SHOULD I USE?

albright
__________________
Speedy Too
2007 SailFish 2660
Speedy Too is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Old 07-24-2008, 07:39 AM
  #3    
Admirals Club
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location:
Posts: 1,369
Default Re: WHAT KNOT SHOULD I USE?

No specific recommendation on the knot to use but here is a useful knot website
http://www.animatedknots.com/indexboating.php
cross21114 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2008, 07:42 AM
  #4    
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: San Diego
Posts: 4,695
Default Re: WHAT KNOT SHOULD I USE?

You want to use a 200 lb mono or flouro top? I would say its gonna be hard to tie ANY satisfactory "knot" in 200 lb. Why not use a swivel (spectra side palomar) and a crimp (mono side) and a shorter top?
__________________
"a doughnut is only one step above a rent rod"
doughnut is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2008, 07:53 AM
  #5    
Admirals Club
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Hayes, VA
Posts: 2,560
Default Re: WHAT KNOT SHOULD I USE?

Spro wind on swivel if your topshot is that big. Crimp the mono and tie the braid.
__________________
I may be going to hell in a bucket, babe, but at least I'm enjoying the ride


Mako 234 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2008, 08:13 AM
  #6    
Admirals Club
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: kittery,maine
Posts: 1,359
Send a message via ICQ to marcus220
Default Re: WHAT KNOT SHOULD I USE?

speedy two,will the albright work with such large diameter mono?
marcus220 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2008, 12:54 PM
  #7    
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Ocean Pines, MD
Posts: 892
Default Re: WHAT KNOT SHOULD I USE?

If you're talking braid to fluoro or mono, this is a great smooth knot:

The Noeud Knot (Video) by Nigel Paquin

http://www.tsurishopjapan.com/articles.php?tPath=4

Very strong, very easy to tie!

__________________
================================================== ==
A bad day fishing is always better than a good day at work.

Jim

23' GW Gulfstream "Get Reel"
WildeOne is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2008, 01:13 PM
  #8    
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: mass.
Posts: 3,695
Default Re: WHAT KNOT SHOULD I USE?

No a Chinees finger splice will not work with solid braid, the braid needs to be hollow. A crimped 200 lb mono connection is going to be pretty big. The wind on swivel will go through the eyes ok but the crimped loop in the 200lb mono my have a tough time.. My want to change to hollow spectra.
__________________
Catch um up

John

R.I.P. Zoe Jane (Doodles) 7/5/10 to 4/3/12

On The Edge 1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2008, 03:23 PM
  #9    
Admirals Club
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: kittery,maine
Posts: 1,359
Send a message via ICQ to marcus220
Default Re: WHAT KNOT SHOULD I USE?

thanks guys for all your advice.
marcus220 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2008, 05:12 PM
  #10    
Admirals Club Captains Club Member
THT sponsor
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Madison, CT
Posts: 8,767
Default Re: WHAT KNOT SHOULD I USE?

I'd go with a swivel as well.
__________________
.
.
.
.
Premium BALLYHOO PIN RIGS:
http://www.thehulltruth.com/fishing-...rigs-sale.html

"NEW" FAB FIVE Bird Chains:



BLUEWATER SPREADER BARS:

http://www.thehulltruth.com/fishing-...ng-colors.html




Rubber Sea Witch / Ballyhoo Pin Rig SPECIAL :
http://www.thehulltruth.com/fishing-...-lure-bag.html

SHARK SHARK SHARK Leaders !!
http://www.thehulltruth.com/fishing-...-per-pack.html
John_Madison CT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2008, 07:30 PM
  #11    
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Davidson/Beaufort North Carolina
Posts: 1,650
Default Re: WHAT KNOT SHOULD I USE?

Make /buy a 200# wind on top shot and use a loop to loop using a 30 turn bimini twist on your 200# solid braid, If its not too late , I'd send the Berkley back and go with all Jerry Brown hollow core with the mono top shot. Any other connection will be big and bulky to wind through rollers .

Ken
__________________
Ken T is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-25-2008, 06:32 AM
  #12    
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 266
Default Re: WHAT KNOT SHOULD I USE?

I'd agree short of switching to hollowcore to attach a dacron loop to teh mono or just buy a premade windon and go loop to loop with a bimini in the braid--very slim connection and pretty snag free.
jeff is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-25-2008, 09:11 AM
  #13    
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Cape Cod
Posts: 1,760
Default Re: WHAT KNOT SHOULD I USE?

Get a 5 yd piece of 200# greenspot dacron and you can spice the braid into one end and the mono into the other with a chinese finger. You can make your own rigging needle with a piece of 60# SS wire about 2' long then folded in two. You will need to secure both ends with rigging floss and glue so somebody is going to have to teach you how to do that but you can have a knotless splice with what you have.

surfcaster51 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-25-2008, 01:00 PM
  #14    
Admirals Club
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: kittery,maine
Posts: 1,359
Send a message via ICQ to marcus220
Default Re: WHAT KNOT SHOULD I USE?

HEY guys,i noticed that the spectra does not appear to be solid afterall, as i inserted a needle 3"quickly,so i think with some patience,i can splice it in the spectra.do you reccomend splicing at least 5'of mono in the spectra?after this is done,i'm not finished,right?hey,i want to thank everyone who took the time to help me out. marc
marcus220 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-25-2008, 01:13 PM
  #15    
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: mass.
Posts: 3,695
Default Re: WHAT KNOT SHOULD I USE?

NO it will still need to be overbound and glued.
__________________
Catch um up

John

R.I.P. Zoe Jane (Doodles) 7/5/10 to 4/3/12

On The Edge 1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-25-2008, 01:27 PM
  #16    
Admirals Club
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: kittery,maine
Posts: 1,359
Send a message via ICQ to marcus220
Default Re: WHAT KNOT SHOULD I USE?

COULD YOU PLEASE DEFINE OVERBOUND?
marcus220 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-25-2008, 03:14 PM
  #17    
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: San Diego
Posts: 4,695
Default Re: WHAT KNOT SHOULD I USE?

Marcus,go to the blackwater, or JB websites they have tutorials. Also, go to the long range forum over at Bloodydecks.com where you have posted this same question. In the long range forum, there are tutorials and instructions on the splice.for example http://www.bhptackle.com/pages.php?pageid=15 http://www.360tuna.com/forum/f10/spl...-xp-65-a-2504/


you can also get the swifty splice kit, the JB kit, The Sato kit as well as advice, from charbait.com.



http://www.senortuna.com/main/showthread.php?t=24832&page=2

http://satocrimpandwinder.com/refere...ingprocess.pdf
__________________
"a doughnut is only one step above a rent rod"
doughnut is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-25-2008, 03:18 PM
  #18    
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Davidson/Beaufort North Carolina
Posts: 1,650
Default Re: WHAT KNOT SHOULD I USE?

offshore3144 has a video that shows how to do it , but I cant find the link. Here is how mine looks.

__________________
Ken T is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-25-2008, 03:18 PM
  #19    
Admirals Club
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: kittery,maine
Posts: 1,359
Send a message via ICQ to marcus220
Default Re: WHAT KNOT SHOULD I USE?

doughnut, thanks for the advice.and everyone else.
marcus220 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-25-2008, 03:25 PM
  #20    
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Davidson/Beaufort North Carolina
Posts: 1,650
Default Re: WHAT KNOT SHOULD I USE?

Sorry bout the resizing

__________________
Ken T is offline   Reply With Quote
 
 
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
which knot? cajundave SportFishing and Charters Forum 6 08-06-2008 03:48 PM
name this knot clamdog1 SportFishing and Charters Forum 3 08-06-2008 04:50 AM
Best Knot 40lbfish The Carolinas 9 11-20-2006 09:43 PM
KNOT lasportsman The Boating Forum 2 10-25-2005 12:40 PM
Flurocarbon Knot Help - Small wind-on knot for Tuna bej SportFishing and Charters Forum 9 01-16-2005 10:50 AM

 



©2009 TheHullTruth.com

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0