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Old 09-17-2007, 11:34 AM
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Looking for the best chum you've ever used for shark. Self made, store bouhgt, etc.... what was it? how fast untill it worked, where did you use it? depth, temp, bait, hook, leader, and species caught....

been using wal-mart chum, not bad but i know there's better... i want sharks circling the boat so all i need to do is throw in bait and get hookd up!



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i want sharks circling the boat so all i need to do is throw in bait and get hookd up!*

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i want sharks circling the boat so all i need to do is throw in bait and get hookd up!



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I'm looking for cheaper/easier alternatives to divorce and would be very interested to know the answer as well.
You two could get together one day and try the wife for CHUM
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The huge buckets of Menhaden chum are great for me. they also sell them in these plastic tubes, but those don't last as long.

another technique that will get lots and lots of oil in the water is to fill up a 2 liter soda bottle with dog food. after it is loaded with dog food, fill it up with menhaden oil and let it sit overnight. in the morning, top it off with menhaden oil, as the dog food will have soaked a lot of it up. Then when you are out there, stab holes in it and drop that in your chum bucket with the actual chunked chum. Little pieces of the dog food will come out loaded with oil and it lasts a very long time. it also gets some of the oil into the water column, unlike a drip on the surface.

last time i did this i had 3 blue sharks bite the chum bucket.
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Buy flats of herring and grind it yourself keep it frozen to grind then refreeze as soon as possible next would be bluefish but only the meat don't try to grind the bones they are alittle too dense to go easily
The store bought bunker chum is usually the stuff they couldn't sell If you buy good herring from a wholesaler it is usually food grade The better the chum the better quaility of fish IMHO
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We run two 5 gallon buckets of chum at a time. 1 bunker and one mackerel. We spice the slick up with 1 inch cubes of bunker, mackerel and most importantly bluefish. We use fresh bluefish filets whenever possible for hook baits. Mackerel and squid baits as a second choice. I cut 4-5 1 inch holes in the top of the chum buckets and hang one off the stern cleat and 1 off of the bow cleat...........Some times we get lucky and get a fish right a way, but usually it takes between 1-2 hours for the slick to set up. If we don't see a "fin" after about 3 hours, I usually pick a different spot or at least run back and drift the same drift again......
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Bluefish and Atlantic mackeral were the best ones for us. Back when bluefish were all over the place we'd use them. I know a guy that would rent a chipper and grind up a crap load of big frozen bluefish and get a whole summers worth of chum made and then rinse and run some branches through the chipper and bring it back. Good for shark chum, bad for the chipper.

The way I did it was to cut them into chunks and then put the chunks into the chum bucket. Hang the bucket over the side with the top well above the water. Then I'd take a piece of 2x4 and pound the chum to bits in the bucket. I am certain that the pounding helped bring sharks in. Put the cover on the bucket and let it soak for 20 minutes or so and them pound it again. Caught lots of Makos, some over 500 lbs. I also agree with don't fish all day in one spot if you don't bring them in within 2 or 3 hours. Best bait was live bluefish.
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Old 09-18-2007, 10:13 AM
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So you all drift.... i guess the problem with anchoring would not being able to back the boat down to reel the shark in....


down in SW fla, i don't see any blue, or mackerals.... some spanish mackerals but i've not caught to many. the one thing i can catch a $hit load of it the sail cat... like this picture..... i can catch 4 in an hour in my canal, leave up tied up to the dock all night and they still got life in the morning.... once they die, i stab em like 1000 times, get the blood and juices going..... you wouldn't believe the small sharks eating these pretty big cats....



does anybody have any pics of their chum buckets and slick pics?? with shark picture?
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Here's a pic of the biggest Mako we got.
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here's blue shark twirling next to the chum bucket


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Wow Capt Fred what do you guys feed those Makos in VA? That is a chunky looking mako.

The best combo for us is 1/2 bluefish 1/2 bunker. Whe had a friend that was in the meat business give us an old grinder that can take a 12 lb bluefish whole. Back a while ago when we did allot of sharking we would go the bunker boats in PT Judith throw them a case of beer and they would fill 2 garbage cans with bunker. Then drive over to the charter boats ask "Andy" on the "Misty" if we could have his bluefish carcases bring that all home and we would have enough chum to fill 2 freezers.

Now when ever we catch a bluefish, bonito or any thing else we keep it and grind it and combine that with the "store bought" bunker chum. The bunker chum you find in the gold metal cans seems like good stuff to me.
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Old 09-19-2007, 02:48 AM
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get a good mix of bunker chum, bluefish and mackeral and i really like to have some false albacore
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Old 09-19-2007, 12:08 PM
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Yup, she was a fat one. That view is after we gutted it and cut off all the belly flap meat just to be able to haul it on board with the gin pole!. There were only two of us on board that trip and it was a workout swinging that fish in. Oh, and that was off of Martha's Vineyard in about 30 fathoms.
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Most of my sharking experience is in the Northeast. Usually the standard Bunker chum was fine. I used to fish back in the days it came in the gold 5 gallon tins, just put a nick in the rim on each side of the seam with the pliers, bend the edge over and pull down the seam like a zipper, the put in a 5 gallon chum bucket made w/ various hole saw bits snap on the lid and tie it off to the cleat. replace the handle with line. "spice it up" with some bunker or mackerel chunks every few minutes. then, and this the key, stop chunking for about 15 minutes every hour. Thats when the sharks get "curious" and come up the slick and hopefully your baits are arranged at the right depth and distance from the boat.

As for bait - I have had success with numerous ones, from whole mackerel to bluefish fillets to whole, live blues (about 3 lbs is ideal) I've also caught them on squid, ling and whiting (caught from the bottom while drifting) bunker, etc. The key was making sure the baits were in the slick and the chum was not rancid. We use to go for mackerel chum in the tournaments - though I rarely saw a difference in the fishing. have also used kites for some wild strikes on live bait on the opposite side of the slick. the struggling fish would pull them right out of the slick.

But now I live in FL and have not strictly targeted shark on a trip, though I am convinced it would work out at the '50 line off of Lauderdale, one day I'll try. From what I have heard, when targeting shark in SW FL a lot of people will use some dead, cut barracuda hung by the tail and tied to dip in and out of the water with the motion of the boat. As for bait, I have heard ladyfish work well. I'm sure some chum wouldn't hurt, but if using a bag, keep an eye on it, lest you lose it to a sneaky critter
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thanks for all your replies.....

im going to get dog food+ 2 liter bottle with menhaden oil, cut up catfish, throw as much $hit in the water as possible.... some things i found out i was doing wrong..

1. i go to this point off sanibel that the FLA Sportsman fishing guide recommends, the problem is the last couple of this there was no current, the chum just sat there and did not drift with the current, which is a no-no so i read... need fast moving water to carry the chum and attract sharks from all over...

2. i would wait 30 mins and leave, these guys say the chum takes an hour, then if you don't get a bite with 2-3 hours gone by, then make a move... I've been moving around too often, trying to rush it....


i can't wait to go sharking!!! i want to go ASAP, but work must come first... will post results next time i go... with pictures!!!!!!!
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Also figure out what direction you are going to drift then run up drift about 1/2 mile throw in your chum buckets and drag them at about 3-4kts back to where you want to start. That gives your slick an nice a head start.
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Purina Cat Chow is better than dog food.
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I don't beleive anything un-natural like dog food, cat food, or chicken blood is a good idea. It's too foreign. A good variety of fresh chum, freshly frozen chum, and a bucket of bunker chum is the way to go. Stick with what the sharks are used to feeding on.
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