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Old 03-25-2007, 08:52 AM
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I have new boat with livewell on the way. My first livewell. I am looking for ways to catch bait, and there are schools of pilchards around here. I have a couple cast nets, and do get some when i dont totally embarass myself with the nets, but the pilchards are pretty fragile and end up dead for the most part.

Can anyone recommend a good fish trap for pilchards? I have a perfect spot in mind to put a trap. Narrow run between some rocks, too narrow to use a cast net.

And what do you use for bait in the trap?

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Look into pilchard rings.
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Fresh dead bait will catch fish.

And what do you use for bait in the trap?
A can of dog or cat food, old bread, dry dog or cat food. You best bet is to learn how to throw those cast nets...........ICM
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I actually can throw the cast nets semi-okay, but by the time I get the pilchards out of them, they are definitely headed for the happy hunting ground.

This spot I have in mind for a trap is perfect, zillions of the little buggers go through it, and hide in it, and its too narrow for a cast net, its maybe three or four ft. wide. I can stand on a small cliff right about 8 ft. above it, looking straight down on them. Isolated area, could leave a trap for days no problem.

I will do a search for pilchard rings, thanks.

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I did a search for pilchard rings, found some descriptions but no photos. But from the description, I am pretty sure there are none hanging on the wall of the one tackle shop here. Wouldnt be the first time I read something on THT that doesnt exist here. Shimano butterfly jigs for example. none here. Etech mechanic worth a dayum....none here.

Do you know of any sites with a photo of a pilchard ring? Is it something i could build myself?
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IMO the best way is a cast net, buy any instructional video, follow the procedures and practices a lot in you back yard, is really easy and start saying wellcome to the pilcharts in you new livewell!!!!!!
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I've got two cast nets. wont work well here. Too many rocks.
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Where is here?...........ICM
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Well, the spot where I know I can usually see lots of pilchards is in an area of rocks sticking out of the water.
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Will a sabiki work in 2 ft. of water?
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yes, a sabiki will work, in 2' of water you might get a few tangles if you try to use all of the hooks. Is there any current? if not, you might also try a hoop net, imagine a hula hoop weighted so it will sink, net across the bottom with an open can of cat food droped in the center. lower the thing into place wait 10 or 20 minutes then pull it up.

I used to use pilchard rings when I was a kid. I seem to recall that the reason you don't see them in tackle stores is because of the ban on gill nets since they are essentially single strand gillnets.
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Use a Greeny rig. Any old light spinning rod and reel. Light mono (4 to 6 lb). Get some either #8 or #10 Gold hooks, can't remember which but get the smaller of the two. Use a castable sinker (1 oz.?) on the end. Make three or four loops in the mono, about 6 or 8 inches apart starting just above the sinker. Put the hooks on the loops so they dangle. Thread the loop of mono through the eye on the hook, then over the end of the hook to lock it on.

The Menhaden will hit the gold hooks, especially if the sun is bright. Just jig the rig up and down. Although I used to throw a nine foot cast net, most of my "greenies" were caught with this type rig.

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