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Old 07-28-2017, 06:06 PM   #1
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Default Blue water freedive spearfishing

Anyone ever hunt for monsters on or near the surface out in the depths? Any techniques or tips for rigging a gun and spear connection and landing the fish? Any advice on safety for the #1 toothy guys in grey suits? I really want to get out there, but need to be prepared.
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I've done a decent amount of bluewater hunting. Gun rigging is specific to the conditions you hunt in and your intended targets, but here are some general tips:

Don't use a shooting line you can't cut in one swipe. Fish will run into you for cover and can wrap you up.

Dive as a minimum 3-man team, one up one down one riding shotgun with a powerhead. If no powerhead, then remove the flopper off a shaft and use this as your deterrent. Aim for the gills and eyes on the shark.

Only shoot one fish at a time, land it as a team.

I prefer a Hawaiian break-away with a float line instead of a reel. I go shaft, shooting line, break-away, small bungee, float line, float.

I use mono because it stretches, its easy to cut, and handles all the fish I hunt in my area.

I use a single-barb flopper shaft because they are cheap, simple, and effective. You will lose shafts to sharks ... slip-tips get expensive.

I aim for the back third of the fish, mid-body and try to break the spine.
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Great info, thanks. What pound Mono, and how long?
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I use 300 lb mono, 1.5 wraps.
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Everything Sea_Bass said. I will add the need of a really good boat operator and having a boat that is maintained properly and reliable.
You don't want to lose power while divers are in the water especially if the wind is blowing the boat faster than the current. Been there done that.
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Agreed, a broke boat with a bad current would not be fun. I'm in ne fl. So our runs are typically long, and my boat stays tip top for that reason. When you guys throw flashers out do you keep them connected to some 15lb mono for retrieving? I was thinking about 2 or 3 old CDs connected to some mono? How long is your buoy line and bungee to your slip tip?
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I don't use throw flashers. I use a 50' long flasher rig with a shark rattle at the bottom covered by a wine-box squid and several plastic bars with reflective tape up to the top. Attached on the surface to a dive flag buoy. My gun line is 1.5 x wraps of mono connected to 10ft bungee connected to 100ft float line. I don't use slip tips because they are expensive and I lose a lot of shafts. Instead of throw flashers you can try white gloves and waving yo fingers.
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We use a similar flasher set up usually set at 40' depth with a disco ball and big squid on the bottom of the rig. It's attached with mono on a small buoy. We do use slip tips but we are targeting wahoo and permit usually. We don't see the big shark / cobia run here like they do up coast. At least we haven't.
My float line set up is exactly like sea bass.
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Thanks guys. Those are some elaborate teasers you have rigged up.
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Ok I have another question. What techniques or indicators do you guys use to decide this is a good spot to jump in and hunt? I get the usual current changes and temp changes, but any other advice. I do like to troll and I suppose if the lines start going off land the fish and circle back to that spot. I also suppose a live well full of bait would be great to start throwing out on that spot. I'm in N.E. FL. So we are out pretty far to bluewater fish and pogys off the beach are about the only feasible thing that I can load the live well with. It would take a long time to blackout a live well with a Sabiki rig in my area on most days.
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I don't blind troll anymore. I look for birds or weed lines or debris in the water. For wahoo we have wrecks that we try and dive the out going tides. Cut bait will work if you find the fish.
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