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Old 03-05-2017, 03:34 PM   #81
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Geez, I am truly amazed. There are experienced boaters in this thread that describe BB (and for my own experience, the Sounds) as sometimes being "extreme boating." Others suggest getting back before the wind picks up in the afternoon and describe what BB revolves into under various conditions. Others insist on only owning something that can plane at 10 knots.

Most of the replies focus on describing how a nice day on the water can become DANGEROUS! Ok, they didn't use the word "dangerous" although that word summarizes their expressed conditions. Why put your family at risk operating an inadequate boat anywhere? OK, so you say "family not part of the ride" and I accept that but your family most likely depends on you for financial and loving support.

Nobody and I do mean nobody can predict the unpredictable for the water conditions. I have been in both sail and power now for over 35 years. Already lost one friend at Pigs & Sows and I am not alone when it comes to losing someone in those waters. I just don't get it! Spend your hard earned money on something that can minimize losing your life for a few bucks not spent on a larger (28'++) boat. These are just my thoughts and I expect many to take exception to them. Heck, I shouldn't care, it's their lives.
Couldn't agree more. On this point "but your family most likely depends on you for financial and loving support" I carry plenty insurance. I have all kinds, life, disability, and drooling. Enough so that I always check my motorcycle chain and tires, and the boats drain plug. Especially after a spat with my loving wife of 29 years:-).

I remember sailing from Manchester by the Sea to Martha's Vineyard in a Catalina 25 with a 9 HP Honda outboard. We lost the engine halfway through Woods Hole Channel. It was a fun morning. Then on the way home we got caught in pea soup fog and a very stiff westerly, no radar, or Loran (long before GPS). We made it home with lots of stories. Ah to be young and stupid again.
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Old 03-06-2017, 07:54 AM   #82
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Maybe you can work out a deal with this guy It's a 255 rather than a 225.

https://worcester.craigslist.org/boa/5977134028.html

FYI, this is sold.
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Wow that's surprising.

Maybe one of these could work out for you.

http://www.boattrader.com/listing/20...rnament-695950

http://www.boattrader.com/listing/20...edom-102936903
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I wasn't surprised that the 255 sold. I'd looked at it a few weeks ago and it was very clean with very low hours. Price was extremely good for that boat but I wasn't looking to spend that much on a used boat when it first came up as I was still getting educated on the pricing for that kind of boat.
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Be careful this summer with the open bow Thought you might get a good laugh watching this video.

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I'm also looking for a Freedom 225 in the North East - pretty limited options right now. Is there a peak time for newer used boats? I'm hoping with the new 235 people will be selling more soon (wishful thinking perhaps).
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Old 03-18-2017, 11:35 PM   #87
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Get a bigger boat.

I am in North Falmouth as well. I am in a DC...love it! Fish all the time, family all the time. My 1st boat was a 23' - not nearly as nice a boat as the Grady, but a good boat and I have been taking boats from North Falmouth to the Vineyard for 35 years - so i really know what I am doing. As I kid I did it all the time in an 18' Glastron with an 85hp. I had a blast in the 23' and as long as you left before the wind came up, you could always surf home. But Woods Hole can get tricky. There were simply some days I couldn't use my boat.

After 1 season I upgraded to a 27' DC with twins. We have way more fun! And other than real weather, I don't worry. I know big $$ - but I think if you buy a new 23' you may end with 3-4' itis pretty fast. I did, and was very happy I had bought used. I used my boat for 1 season and sold it for more than i bought it for. Bought the 27' new because it was the last bought I was ever going to buy (I am now looking at 32').

Happy to answer any specific questions your have about the area - I keep my boat at Fiddlers.

Best of luck!
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I'm also looking for a Freedom 225 in the North East - pretty limited options right now. Is there a peak time for newer used boats? I'm hoping with the new 235 people will be selling more soon (wishful thinking perhaps).
The recent recession drove the boat manufacturing industry to near extinction in some cases. There is not a lot of newer used stock out there but they can be found if you are diligent. GW's are in demand in the northeast and command a premium price. Be ready to act fast to close a deal and do not be afraid to travel. A small boat can be easily shipped from anywhere in the US.
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The recent recession drove the boat manufacturing industry to near extinction in some cases. There is not a lot of newer used stock out there but they can be found if you are diligent. GW's are in demand in the northeast and command a premium price. Be ready to act fast to close a deal and do not be afraid to travel. A small boat can be easily shipped from anywhere in the US.
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Get a bigger boat.

I am in North Falmouth as well. I am in a DC...love it! Fish all the time, family all the time. My 1st boat was a 23' - not nearly as nice a boat as the Grady, but a good boat and I have been taking boats from North Falmouth to the Vineyard for 35 years - so i really know what I am doing. As I kid I did it all the time in an 18' Glastron with an 85hp. I had a blast in the 23' and as long as you left before the wind came up, you could always surf home. But Woods Hole can get tricky. There were simply some days I couldn't use my boat.

After 1 season I upgraded to a 27' DC with twins. We have way more fun! And other than real weather, I don't worry. I know big $$ - but I think if you buy a new 23' you may end with 3-4' itis pretty fast. I did, and was very happy I had bought used. I used my boat for 1 season and sold it for more than i bought it for. Bought the 27' new because it was the last bought I was ever going to buy (I am now looking at 32').

Happy to answer any specific questions your have about the area - I keep my boat at Fiddlers.

Best of luck!
Bigger is better!

It's not that your going to run into real trouble in a 23', it's just that it's not going to be anywhere near as pleasant as a bigger boat and you'll need to be much more on top of the weather.
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Thank you. I pulled the trigger on a GW 255. I was leaning towards a Robalo R247 but talking it over with my wife she said "you've always wanted the Grady. If you get the Robalo and it doesn't live up to what you wanted you're going to be second guessing yourself. Get the Grady." I listened to this and said I still have to look at the Robalo. So I did go see one last Friday. After looking it over I came away thinking, it's not a Grady and while it might be a nice boat I didn't even need to water test it to know.

I put a deposit on a leftover 2016 GW 255. I'd been looking at that and the GW 235. The 235 is a really nice boat too. We're both going to spend time on both boats and it's possible I'll change to the 235 but I am also in the camp of "bigger is better on the bay".

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Get a bigger boat.

I am in North Falmouth as well. I am in a DC...love it! Fish all the time, family all the time. My 1st boat was a 23' - not nearly as nice a boat as the Grady, but a good boat and I have been taking boats from North Falmouth to the Vineyard for 35 years - so i really know what I am doing. As I kid I did it all the time in an 18' Glastron with an 85hp. I had a blast in the 23' and as long as you left before the wind came up, you could always surf home. But Woods Hole can get tricky. There were simply some days I couldn't use my boat.

After 1 season I upgraded to a 27' DC with twins. We have way more fun! And other than real weather, I don't worry. I know big $$ - but I think if you buy a new 23' you may end with 3-4' itis pretty fast. I did, and was very happy I had bought used. I used my boat for 1 season and sold it for more than i bought it for. Bought the 27' new because it was the last bought I was ever going to buy (I am now looking at 32').

Happy to answer any specific questions your have about the area - I keep my boat at Fiddlers.

Best of luck!
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Old 03-20-2017, 04:53 PM   #92
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Congrats bsnappa.....Looking forward to the pics OTW
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Old 03-20-2017, 06:34 PM   #93
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Congrats on the boat, Good thread with lots of good advice. I think the best came from the Mrs. on getting what you wanted vs settling into something and then second guessing.

Im going into my 4th season with my new to me Grady. I always wanted one, and would say I would get one, and boom! Without the hunt one came along at the right price and time.
Im on BB and have been enjoying it, though after reading through this thread I must be some kinda crazy in a 208adventure???
I have seen some sloppiness but never felt unsafe.
Well be sure to update us with pics and a name once you choose one..
Hope to see ya out there and recognize the name/boat.
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Old 03-20-2017, 06:58 PM   #94
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Thanks everyone. Appreciate all the info and exchanges. Lots of great discussions.

Seems we're pretty lucky to have such a great boating community in the BB area.
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Bsnappa: That's awesome! Congrats man. Post some pics when you get it. Maybe I'll see you on B.B thid season.
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Nice pickup!

Hope you get to enjoy every hour on her!
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Great insights here.

All my experience in VS is on the ferry back and forth between Woods Hole and OB.

I have a 209 GW w/ 200HP Yami that I use north of Boston, I have been wanting to trailer it down to falmouth and take it over to Edgartown harbor. The intent would be to use my friends mooring in Katama bay for a few days mid summer while we kick around the harbor and chappy.

Any thoughts on this plan provided we get a reasonable weather window ?
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You'll poke yer eye out kid!

Kidding. BB and VS can be glass. Almost every afternoon in the summer the chop builds pretty good. Sometimes more than that. Just keep an eye on the weather, favor earlier hours and be smart and you should be fine. I'm out all the time in a 216 and I've never been scared out there (yet) but I've had to slog home for sure even though I try to take the advice I just gave you. Sometimes the wind kicks up earlier or the forecast is wrong. "Situational Awareness" on the water is key, as it is in so much of life.
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Running only a V20 I'm darn lucky to be alive. WOW! Thanks THT for scaring some sense into me.
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Great insights here.

All my experience in VS is on the ferry back and forth between Woods Hole and OB.

I have a 209 GW w/ 200HP Yami that I use north of Boston, I have been wanting to trailer it down to falmouth and take it over to Edgartown harbor. The intent would be to use my friends mooring in Katama bay for a few days mid summer while we kick around the harbor and chappy.

Any thoughts on this plan provided we get a reasonable weather window ?
Easy to do, and definitely something you should do.

Morning weather is, more often than not, completely fine. You can see the Vineyard from the mainland, so nav isn't hard. Your choice based on weather conditions to either shoot straight over to Vineyard Haven/OB and then work over to Edgartown along the coast in the lee of the island or to just aim straight at Edgartown harbor.

On a calm morning, either is completely feasible.

I would plan your return trip for the morning as well. It's not a fun crossing when the wind picks up in the afternoon. Even if it gets bad, you can always run with the waves until you get back to the mainland and then cross over to your final destination.

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Running only a V20 I'm darn lucky to be alive. WOW! Thanks THT for scaring some sense into me.
Thanks for bringing something helpful to this thread.

I, a bunch of other posters, and apparently OP decided that a boat of that size didn't meet his needs.

Glad you enjoy your boat. But I definitely don't ever want to see you post about going bigger
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