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Old 11-15-2016, 04:05 PM   #1
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Default Pilothouse kits?

I was looking around for a pilothouse kit that I might be able to install on a 20-22 foot center console. Pretty much all I see are doghouses, not a real pilot house. I'm ok with an open back so long as you can close it with a curtain. I'm not ok with open sides.


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http://www.pacificpilothouse.com

No idea what they cost. Seems like there should be someone closer but when I looked a while back I didn't find anyone.
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Bill, it seems like a lot of work to add a FULL pilothouse.

I assuming you like your boat and dont wanna sell it and just buy a pilothouse boat?
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I am guessing that you want to enclose the bow as well? If not, a doghouse with sides that extend 10-12" is very effective for keeping two people totally dry. Adding a lobster boat style top will be much more difficult.
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You've seen the light?

You can buy plans but I'm thinking you want a bolt on version, correct?

http://bateau.com/proddetail.php?prod=C_PH1
Then there is this.



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wonder if fib fab would make something up, located on the cape local ?
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Background:

I really enjoy my little 18 foot Novi which has a great pilothouse and cabin. I just think the boat is a bit too small for what I'd like to use it for. So I started looking for 20 to 22 foot boats with a pilothouse and they sure are hard to find. Plus they tend to be pricey. That got me thinking that there are plenty of center console boats in that size and many of them don't even have a T top so it would be pretty easy to get one of those and add a pilot house to it. But then comes the cost of the pilothouse. A custom design/build is probably not affordable. But a commercially available kit might do the trick.
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You've seen the light?

You can buy plans but I'm thinking you want a bolt on version, correct?

http://bateau.com/proddetail.php?prod=C_PH1
Then there is this.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/1977-Bonito-...25.m3641.l6368

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Yeah, your boat is a good one, Brian. I love the center console style and my new big boat is a CC with removable wings. I'm thinking of selling the 18 footer and getting a 20 to 22 footer with a pilothouse. The idea is to use the new 30 footer for large groups and offshore trips and have a 20 to 22 footer for solo and small group trips around the sounds. The 18 is a bit too small and slow to be comfortable out to Devils Bridge, Nomans, or the Hooter. I could repower the 18 for more speed, but I can't make it any longer.
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I am guessing that you want to enclose the bow as well? If not, a doghouse with sides that extend 10-12" is very effective for keeping two people totally dry. Adding a lobster boat style top will be much more difficult.
Yeah, you raise a good point. Something that closes the bow would allow me to go gunnel to gunnel. But that sounds way too complicated. The doghouses I have seen just seem too small to be worth the effort of such a refit.
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http://www.pacificpilothouse.com

No idea what they cost. Seems like there should be someone closer but when I looked a while back I didn't find anyone.
The prices are right on the web site. $15,000 for the smallest unit that would suit my needs. The one I would really want, the 60" Grande, is over $27K!!! Seems pricey, no? I can get this used North Coast for $29K.

http://southshoredrydock.com/brokera...searchtype=buy
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That Northcoast would solve problems and save time. Very good price. Fibfab in Orleans, Ma is also worth exploring. Bob Reynolds can do some pretty creative work.
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Those bateau plans don't look too bad at all, nor does it look heavy. Been tossing up whether I want a ttop on my 23 or a doghouse.
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Just pick up a 21 Steiger. It seems like exactly what you're looking for. It might be a little more money than you planned but they are great boats and hold value very well.
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I plan on building a hybrid pilot/dog house on the Fishbone this winter. the top will have a brow/gutter system so when it rains water will go down the support legs in the back and not drip on your head or down your neck. the rear windows will be on piano hinges and will swing out to keep the cockpit dry while running and swing in for ease of walking around while fishing. the sides and back will have roll up Stamoid canvas pieces. these could be moved to another track on the outside edge of the top and attach to the gunnels or tuck in and attach to the console/leaning post. funds will determine if it will be built from AB plywood or Coosa/Penske board. it will be built on the existing console and replacing an aluminum tube T-top.

i think this should give me a best of both worlds scenario. I do like the "wings" on CCs but i dont like the idea of having to stow them, this would be kinda like a convertible in a sense..

if youre going to build it, make it exactly what you want and skip the "kit" idea IMHO
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I had a Maritime 20-P Ran it out to Stellwagon many times for cod & tuna great boat and i loved the small dog house. I had a 3 sided canvas enclosure with windows.......Miss that boat
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funds will determine if it will be built from AB plywood or Coosa/Penske board. it will be built on the existing console and replacing an aluminum tube T-top.
Given it doesn't need to be insanely thick, I'm not sure it would even be worth going penske since it'll be glassed.
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Given it doesn't need to be insanely thick, I'm not sure it would even be worth going penske since it'll be glassed.
my only thoughts were solely weight savings... plywood would probably weigh more than the existing tube frame
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my only thoughts were solely weight savings... plywood would probably weigh more than the existing tube frame
Divinycell? comes in 2x4 sheets from LBI. Where's the T Top going? The Mako needs a top or doghouse since I have the SeaCraft 20SF now.
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Divinycell? comes in 2x4 sheets from LBI. Where's the T Top going? The Mako needs a top or doghouse since I have the SeaCraft 20SF now.
Haven't decided what to do with it, it's on a console that is over 40" wide though.... It will need some alteration for narrower beamed boats
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I plan on building a hybrid pilot/dog house on the Fishbone this winter. the top will have a brow/gutter system so when it rains water will go down the support legs in the back and not drip on your head or down your neck. the rear windows will be on piano hinges and will swing out to keep the cockpit dry while running and swing in for ease of walking around while fishing. the sides and back will have roll up Stamoid canvas pieces. these could be moved to another track on the outside edge of the top and attach to the gunnels or tuck in and attach to the console/leaning post. funds will determine if it will be built from AB plywood or Coosa/Penske board. it will be built on the existing console and replacing an aluminum tube T-top.

i think this should give me a best of both worlds scenario. I do like the "wings" on CCs but i dont like the idea of having to stow them, this would be kinda like a convertible in a sense..

if youre going to build it, make it exactly what you want and skip the "kit" idea IMHO
Build thread would be much appreciated. Good winter follow.
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