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Old 02-16-2013, 08:19 AM
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Default 2013 Gulf of Maine Cod & Haddock Season

Briefly, yesterday, the Recreational Advisory Panel, with the concurrence of the Science Center, recommended a bag limit of 9 cod per person with a minimum size of 19". This is the same as the 2012 regulation. The bag limit on haddock, as in 2012, will again be unlimited with an increase to 21" in minimum size. These motions (recommendations) will be forwarded directly to NMFS ( by passing both the Groundfish Oversight Committee and NEFMC due to time restraints) who will either accept the motions or substitute their own in time for the May 1 new fishing year. In the past, NFMS has usually accepted the motions that have been recommended by the committees and supported by the Science Center.

Without getting into great detail, the Science Center found that recreational fisherman in 2012 came no where near catching even the proposed 2013 sub ACL for cod. As far as the haddock bag limit is concerned, it was really a mute point, as reports show most anglers caught 5 or fewer haddock per trip.

These regulations will come into effect May 1st. Until that time 2012 regulations are in effect.

To say the least I am both surprised and pleased...time to sharpen the Dexters. Game On!
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Wow . . . That is great news!

3 brandnew dexter (2nds) for 2013 ready to cut some meat.
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Great news George. 2013 was not looking good for a while there.. Thanks for keeping us up to speed as to what is going on.. Sharpen dem dexters guys..
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Thanks for the info, now we just have to find them
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Just remember those are just recommendations that were made by the RAP. They can be accepted, rejected or modified by either the administrator, NMFS or NOAA.

I would wait on the popping the corks.

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I don't see what difference any of this matters as long as the fleet of draggers are out there doing the damage !
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I don't see what difference any of this matters as long as the fleet of draggers are out there doing the damage !
It does nothing IMHO.

Until they address the real issues nothing will change and it will take longer for things to get fixed.

Fishery politics at its finest.

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Well said, Greg. The fish-o-crats and the nitwits who believe them are killing all fisheries...

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Well said, Greg. The fish-o-crats and the nitwits who believe them are killing all fisheries...

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Now that we have catch shares, what are the real issues? It would appear these bureaucrats never do much of anything until the fisheries are in bad shape by anyone's standards or they get sued and lose in federal court?
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good luck finding a codfish. as for haddock, You may still be able to find 1 or 2,
Maybe! but with the draggers pounding away, I'd be surprised to find ANYTHING. I agree that the regs don't really mean jack. They can tell you that you can take 100 fish per trip but if you can't find
any what difference does it make? sadly, the way I see it , it's over here in the northeast for groundfishing.They "Managed" these fish right into extinction. Idiots!
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good luck finding a codfish. as for haddock, You may still be able to find 1 or 2,
Maybe! but with the draggers pounding away, I'd be surprised to find ANYTHING. I agree that the regs don't really mean jack. They can tell you that you can take 100 fish per trip but if you can't find
any what difference does it make? sadly, the way I see it , it's over here in the northeast for groundfishing.They "Managed" these fish right into extinction. Idiots!
Well said North Coast, these were my thoughts exactly.

They can make a new unlimited/no size limit- Atlantic Salmon, Sturgeon and Winter Flounder rule but if there are no fish, there are no fish.

Dogfish/spiny sand sharks-all that will be left.
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I don't see what difference any of this matters as long as the fleet of draggers are out there doing the damage !
The only way that will end is if the Feds do another permit buy-back program this time give them an offer they can't refuse.My wife's family has 3 Draggers on Boston Fish Pier and if the right number comes along they'll get out.One vessel had the scallop and gen cat permits appraised for over 5 mil,with the recent days at sea change they'll take the dough and cut the boats up.

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good luck finding a codfish. as for haddock, You may still be able to find 1 or 2,
Maybe! but with the draggers pounding away, I'd be surprised to find ANYTHING. I agree that the regs don't really mean jack. They can tell you that you can take 100 fish per trip but if you can't find
any what difference does it make? sadly, the way I see it , it's over here in the northeast for groundfishing.They "Managed" these fish right into extinction. Idiots!
I went out a few weeks ago and it was crazy good fishin'! Just like the old days off Gloucester. I'll head out this week and report back. If it ever lays down wanna go?
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I am confused guys. If the overall quota was reduced by 77% for GOM cod and 61% for Georges cod (Which is massive) and we see no regulation change on the CHB and Rec retention limit, doesnt this mean the Comm Sector takes the entire hit On the quota reduction. Which should mean that if they can catch less they will be out there for less time leaving more fish. Is it that simple or am i delusional?

In any case cold water species take a long time to recover. It is gonna be a while before we see any significant wide spread overall improvment in the fishery.

I guess Redfish is gonna see the plate alot this season, cuz pollock SUCKS..
I hate cuttin them friggin spiny little red bastards. But they are tasty..
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NOAA's Fishing Policies Under Investigation.

http://bangordailynews.com/2013/02/1...investigation/
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I am confused guys. If the overall quota was reduced by 77% for GOM cod and 61% for Georges cod (Which is massive) and we see no regulation change on the CHB and Rec retention limit, doesnt this mean the Comm Sector takes the entire hit On the quota reduction. Which should mean that if they can catch less they will be out there for less time leaving more fish. Is it that simple or am i delusional?

In any case cold water species take a long time to recover. It is gonna be a while before we see any significant wide spread overall improvment in the fishery.

I guess Redfish is gonna see the plate alot this season, cuz pollock SUCKS..
I hate cuttin them friggin spiny little red bastards. But they are tasty..
Doubly confusing since they raised the landing limits for comm gear through the end of the season.

The comms aren't hitting quota either.
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Thanks for the info, now we just have to find them
Millions of them washed up on the beach from the blizzard along with other species including millions of pounds of lobster.

Mother nature has a way of making us pay for not harvesting them..
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I went out a few weeks ago and it was crazy good fishin'! Just like the old days off Gloucester. I'll head out this week and report back. If it ever lays down wanna go?

I have a hunch you will find nothing.
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I have a hunch you will find nothing.
Dont be so sure. Some of the head boats that are making it out are doing pretty well..
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Dont be so sure. Some of the head boats that are making it out are doing pretty well..
I didn't think any head boats were fishing the GOM? I know the head boats fishing off Block Island are doing well, but I don't think they have daggers hammering the grounds like they are on the GOM.
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