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Old 12-30-2012, 07:49 AM
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Being that it's winter and not much gone on for us boaters. Don't forget it's now a law http://danshamptons.com/article/the-...uffolk-county/ for us suffolk county 'folk to attend a safety course. Mine as well get it done now because I would hate to sit at the library listing to the coast guard aux on a sunny July day.

I actually took the coast guard auxiliary course twice. Once when I was 12 and once in a high school "transportation systems" class. I can't find the cert, if I need to retake it, If any THT'r wants to go with someone i'm around.
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GOOD! Will make us all safer.
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Keep in mind the requirement doesn't actually apply until 11/1/13, so you have pretty much all year to get it done.
Also, it only applies to Suffolk County residents - not those from anywhere else whose boat is not registered in Suffolk County.
Keep in mind, there is a pretty fair chance the law will be moot, as NYS is pretty close to passing a statewide certification requirement. The last two issues still up for consideration in the statewide certification is grandfathering in anyone (i.e., no test) who is a current boat owner with a minimum of 5 or 10 years ownership experience and whether NYS will particpate in the online programs that most states do.
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Old 12-30-2012, 10:19 AM
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Default Boating Safety Legislation #1797 Suffolk County

What has been posted do far is correct. The current Suffolk County Boating Safety Law #1797 applies only to Suffolk County Residents boating in Suffolk County Waters. The law requires Mandatory proof of a boating safety class by November 1st of 2013.

There are exemptions to the legislation as listed below:

Boating Safety Instructors are exempt

Anyone holding a VALID NY State Public Vessel Operators License

US Power Squadron Instructors

Members of the Coast Guard Auxiliary

Anyone licensed by the Canadian or USCG Coast Guard(license MUST be valid)

Emergency personnel(Police, Fire, Lifeguards ect) may operate boats without a license while carrying out their official duties.


There are boating safety classes in Suffolk County. I am an instructor and will be teaching my first class for this year in late February. This class will put all students in compliance with the new legislation
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Keep in mind the requirement doesn't actually apply until 11/1/13, so you have pretty much all year to get it done.
Also, it only applies to Suffolk County residents - not those from anywhere else whose boat is not registered in Suffolk County.
Keep in mind, there is a pretty fair chance the law will be moot, as NYS is pretty close to passing a statewide certification requirement. The last two issues still up for consideration in the statewide certification is grandfathering in anyone (i.e., no test) who is a current boat owner with a minimum of 5 or 10 years ownership experience and whether NYS will particpate in the online programs that most states do.
Yeah, i would still rather do it when there is snow on the ground then bunker in the bay!

I fish at night not only because the bass chew harder, but because the boozers are tied up at the dock. The july 4th boat sinking was from my grandparents and brother in law's marina. A lot of $$ and business smarts however a lot of uneducated boaters on the water.

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Old 12-30-2012, 01:44 PM
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Default Boating Safety Legislation #1797 Suffolk County

I have a NY State Boating Safety Class Scheduled for the following locations in Suffolk County:

East Islip Public Library, Three classes Scheduled:

1) February 19th, 20th, 21 from 6 to 9 PM
registration opens for this class on January 2nd 2013
631-581-9200
Must attend all three nights

2) April 9 th ,10th ,11th, from 6 to 9 PM
Must attend all three nights

3) June 25th, 26th , 27th from 6 to 9 PM
Must attend all three nights

North Shore/Shoreham Library
Saturdays April 6th and 13th from 10 AM to 2 PM
Students MUST attend both Saturdays

Half Hollow Hills Public Library
May 1st, 2nd and 3rd from 6:30 to 9:30 PM
Must attend all three nights

West Islip Public Library
Saturday June 1st and Saturday June 8th from 10 AM to 2 PM
Students Must attend both Sessions


Upon successful completion of a Boating Safety Class. The Student will leave with a valid Boating Safety Certificate. The certificate will put you in compliance with the new Suffolk County Boating Safety Legislation

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All for it... My wife and I purchased a winter home in S. America, planing to do some fishing there. Started to look into buying a boat... guess what? if you plan to operate a boat with an engine, you need a captain's license. No exceptions. Ok, it is not an intensive course like here, but never the less, you need to attend 2 week night classes, 6pm to 10pm every night. Best part is this.... as a part of requirement, you need to get out on a boat to operate a boat for a day with an approved captain. Point is that we need to develop a standard of our own and introduce it to our boating communities. My .02cents.
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Get it done now. I got mine before NH made it mandatory and it was free. Currently they are charging and sometimes the sessions are full and people have to wait. This is what you can probably expect if/when it becomes a State requirement.

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does anyone know of classes being given in putnam county. I have my certification but i want my 12 year old to go through the class adn learn more than what he knows already. Being on the water since he has been a year old i must say he knows alot more then some adults i know with boats.
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I checked the website. Currently there are no Boating Safety Classes Scheduled for Putnam County
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ok great thanks for the reply. would you be able to send me the link so i can keep updated on the scheduale.

thank you
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Why is an expired Coast Guard license not recognized?
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EDIT: I thought this was for suffolk county MASS...not LI.

While I agree that mandatory boating classes should be required, this is Massachusetts. The hack politicians will never let a good opportunity pass them by for revenue generation.

So when we're standing in line at the DMV in a couple of years renewing our Massachusetts boating license, you'll know where it started.

Hit the RESET button, please.
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Old 12-31-2012, 07:48 AM
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Default Boating Safety Legislation #1797 Suffolk County

The Current Boating Safety Legislation #1797 applies to Suffolk County NY.

Suffolk County NY is the County that covers Eastern Long Island



As far as the question regarding an expired Captains License. The license has to be valid to be in compliance with the new legislation. If you have a VALID license issued by the USCG or Canadian Coast Guard to operate a vessel. You are compliant with the new legislation.

It is similar to a drivers license. It has to be valid for you to operate a motor vehicle.If it is expired. You are subject to arrest for operating a motor vehicle with an expired license
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As far as the question regarding an expired Captains License. The license has to be valid to be in compliance with the new legislation. If you have a VALID license issued by the USCG or Canadian Coast Guard to operate a vessel. You are compliant with the new legislation.

It is similar to a drivers license. It has to be valid for you to operate a motor vehicle.If it is expired. You are subject to arrest for operating a motor vehicle with an expired license
I'm not sure I understand the analogy under these circumstances (and I understand you are relaying the message not making the decision).

Someone can take a one time, eight hour course and be considered compliant. But someone else, with far more extensive education and experience, who by choice decides not to renew their professional mariner's credentials, is not considered compliant.

An eight hour course, possibly given online is good for their lifetime but a USCG license that is expired is not? I am having trouble understanding the reasoning.

BTW - thanks for posting all the info
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I hope the safety class is more useful than the one I took in New Jersey years ago. I took a 2 day course to break up the amount of time in a "classroom"

We were given a book, had the instructor read it to us and told us the majority of questions that would be on the test. Then we're given the test on day 2. We didn't use nearly the allotted time.

Very few questions were asked by the class since we had the majority of questions-answers ahead of time. The few questions were by recreational jet skiers.

Maybe it was just my class, maybe things are more informative now but when I took my class it felt like a "hidden fee" that cost me money and time. And judging by what I see on the water, didn't seem to help much.
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Old 12-31-2012, 08:52 AM
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Default Boating Safety Legislation #1797 Suffolk County

I will try to answer your concerns regarding the new legislation

HOWEVER, I do not want to get into the merits of the new legislation.
That needs to be addressed with your Suffolk County Legislator who voted this bill into law.

I have read this bill many times and spoken with the legislators in Suffolk County regarding this bill. If you Google the bill, you can read it for yourself. Easy to read and understand.

Currently, in NY State, a boating safety certificate does not expire. Once you have attended class and met the requirements. The certificate is valid for life.

ON-LINE Boating Safety Classes are NOT accepted in NY State.

I understand your issue with an expired Captains License. I have a masters license and the training are requirements are much more stringent. However, the license must be valid to be in compliance. You would need to express your concerns to your Suffolk County Legislator.
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I cannot speak for a class in New Jersey. I teach the NY state Safe Boating Class here on Long Island.

My class consists of an 8-hour class. I encourage questions and do many hands-on presentations. Class involvement and participation make the class enjoyable for all students.
Over the years, I have developed my own teaching aids and demonstration materials to keep the class's attention and help them understand the material.

If I had to read the book to the class for 8-hours I would fall asleep. Every instructor has there own way of presenting the material. I also have all my students fill out a class evaluation on the material and the instructor. They are not permitted to put there name on the evaluation so they can be as honest as possible. This help me understand what i presented well and what chapters I need to present in a better way.
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I cannot speak for a class in New Jersey. I teach the NY state Safe Boating Class here on Long Island.

My class consists of an 8-hour class. I encourage questions and do many hands-on presentations. Class involvement and participation make the class enjoyable for all students.
Over the years, I have developed my own teaching aids and demonstration materials to keep the class's attention and help them understand the material.

If I had to read the book to the class for 8-hours I would fall asleep. Every instructor has there own way of presenting the material. I also have all my students fill out a class evaluation on the material and the instructor. They are not permitted to put there name on the evaluation so they can be as honest as possible. This help me understand what i presented well and what chapters I need to present in a better way.
So besides sucking money out of peoples pockets tell me what you teach?
Just another goverment intrusion.
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Poorrichard,
I took the boating safety course sometime around 1989-90. Would NYS parks still have it on file?
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