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Following is a news release from WWF, ABTA will provide more info after the conditions are examined. Don't though the rope over the beam yet!! Ralph
Subject: WWF Bluefin Tuna Bulletin 108 - EU backs international tradeban
Bluefin Tuna Bulletin #108
The voice of the bluefin - news from WWF Mediterranean on the bluefin
tuna fishery in crisis.
WWF Media Statement For immediate release, 10 March 2010
* * * All 27 EU countries to back Atlantic bluefin tuna international
trade ban * * *
Brussels, Belgium – WWF applauds the confirmation from European Union
member states that they will vote for a ban on international commercial
trade in Atlantic bluefin tuna during a meeting of the largest wildlife
trade convention starting this week.
The 27 EU members said today they would vote to list Atlantic bluefin
tuna on Appendix I of the Convention on International Trade in
Endangered Species (CITES), joining a growing list of supporting
countries, including the United States of America.
"WWF welcomes the EU announcement, which will give this devastated
species the possibility to recover," said Dr Sergi Tudela, Head of
Fisheries at WWF Mediterranean. "Other governments must back the ban
when they meet for CITES later this week."
"The EU is a major trade and development partner in many key regions of
the world, and some countries may have been hanging back on Atlantic
bluefin tuna to see what the Europeans would decide to do," Tudela said.
"With the two largest holders of bluefin tuna fishing quota on either
side of the Atlantic – the U.S. and EU – now supporting the trade ban,
other countries should follow suit," Dr Tudela said.
"Our only remaining concern is that we do not understand the continuing
need on the part of the EU for conditions to be attached to the Appendix
I listing. WWF believes this trade ban should be implemented
immediately, without conditions or delay.
"The EU must now push for widespread support of this proposal during the
CITES meeting."
The proposal to list Atlantic bluefin tuna on CITES Appendix I was
submitted by the Principality of Monaco in October. Atlantic bluefin
tuna is at serious risk of commercial extinction because of decades of
unsustainable and illegal fishing in the Mediterranean Sea, driven by
demand from Japan’s luxury seafood markets.
The eligibility of Atlantic bluefin tuna for the CITES Appendix I
listing proposal is backed by independent experts including a United
Nations Food and Agriculture Organization panel, and the scientific
committee of the International Commission for the Conservation of
Atlantic Tunas (ICCAT), the regional fisheries management organization
in charge of this fishery.
The 15th Conference of the Parties to the Convention on the
International Trade in Endangered Species of Wild Fauna and Flora (CITES
CoP 15) will take place March 13-25 in Doha, Qatar. The Convention is an
international agreement between governments that aims to ensure that
international trade in specimens of wild animals and plants does not
threaten their survival in the wild.
Note to editor: Footage, photos and other material media available at www.panda.org/cites/media
* * *
Please see www.panda.org/tuna or contact WWF Mediterranean Programme for
further information.
Regards,
WWF
You think the pew assholes and the other enviro-nazi douchebags in the obummer admin are gonna stop here? If you do, you'r eeven more stupid than the comments you just made indicate...
Guys, this should be a lesson in why you should never believe what WWF tells you.
What we have been told is that EU has supported a conditional listing of bluefin. That is, they are only supporting it if certain conditions are attached to the listing- one of them, we have been told, being a delayed entry into force. In other words, they are supporting a listing after a set amount of time (18 months is what we have been told), which would allow for ICCAT nations to get into compliance. So not only are they not supporting a full blown listing, but there is some debate about whether a delayed entry is even allowed. If it isnt, than this position would actually be a non-position, and the real position would only be revealed at the CITES meeting in the coming weeks.
Until an actual EU press release comes out, none of us will know for sure, but that is what we have been led to believe. People really need to stop reading the BS that WWF puts out. They are so full of **** it is not even funny. They tell you what they want you to hear, in the hopes that it will dupe you into believing it. In this case, they want CITES nations to believe the EU supported a full blown listing so that they will then vote for the listing themselves. Its call propaganda. Dont believe it. Nobody will know where the EU is going to go until the vote actually happens.
Depends on how long and the recreational guys don't really put a dent in the catch compared to the commercial guys.
are you ok the rec kill more tuna than the com it 3-4 rec tun to one giant. and if you think you will fish if it passes you are gone . they will shut it all down
There's no way (in my opinion) that they're going to allow recreational BFT fishing and not commercial. The Mediterranean is at fault for this, for sure, ever see the Discovery special, "Tuna Wranglers"?
It's sickening.
There's alot of scary stuff going on w/ these green/conserv groups but it's not just them...it's our own politicians that we voted into office as well; check out the post from the Lady Diane the other day...Barack is backing all of this!
Recreational...Commercial...it doesn't matter; if they approve this, we're all S.O.L.!
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2006 Parker 1801 CC
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Guys, this should be a lesson in why you should never believe what WWF tells you.
What we have been told is that EU has supported a conditional listing of bluefin. That is, they are only supporting it if certain conditions are attached to the listing- one of them, we have been told, being a delayed entry into force. In other words, they are supporting a listing after a set amount of time (18 months is what we have been told), which would allow for ICCAT nations to get into compliance. So not only are they not supporting a full blown listing, but there is some debate about whether a delayed entry is even allowed. If it isnt, than this position would actually be a non-position, and the real position would only be revealed at the CITES meeting in the coming weeks.
Until an actual EU press release comes out, none of us will know for sure, but that is what we have been led to believe. People really need to stop reading the BS that WWF puts out. They are so full of **** it is not even funny. They tell you what they want you to hear, in the hopes that it will dupe you into believing it. In this case, they want CITES nations to believe the EU supported a full blown listing so that they will then vote for the listing themselves. Its call propaganda. Dont believe it. Nobody will know where the EU is going to go until the vote actually happens.
I have been trying to research donations made by certain large enviro groups, any tips ?
Just thought it would demonstrate clearly how a donation might influence a countries policy on this issue.
That is something I have wondered about but I have not come across anything. There is certainly a ton of money being spent on this battle, one person who has been involved in CITES for decades said that he has never seen anything like this in terms of the level of effort being put in to getting a species listed. He said nothing comes close. It seems that a lot of the money being spent is on lobbying and press. I can barely use the internet anymore without coming across ten stories about the need for a listing. If you come across anything let us know.
What I want to know is how they got Monaco to make the proposal in the first place.
Can anyone dis agree that he stocks are not in good shape?
I think everyone can agree that management has not been effective but the solution is not CITES. The only solution is to get enough pressure on ICCAT to do what is right. They made big changes this fall and they know the pressure is on to make even more changes at the next meeting. While they have failed us in the past, I have faith that given all this new pressure that they will be smart enough to make the necessary changes in the coming years. This CITES threat is not going away until they make those changes.
But again, CITES is not the answer. It was never meant to be used for fisheries management and all it will do is add a whole new level of complex rules to a system that does not need more complex rules. Countries like Japan will take reservations and so you will end up with the US, Canada and maybe a few others paying the biggest price. It will also make the black market grow immensely. The only solution for real long term management is for ICCAT to do its job. It can be probably be argued that the threat of CITES has been helpful in getting ICCAT to take this seriously, but thats where it should have ended. A listing will not do any good and will punish those who have followed the rules.
Look at all the pressure that has been put on by some to get this listing. If half of that pressure had been put on ICCAT it would have done so much good. Hopefully this listing will be shot down and the pressure will stay on ICCAT and they will do what is needed to ensure proper management.
Depends on how long and the recreational guys don't really put a dent in the catch compared to the commercial guys.
PJJR are you kidding? For every commercially harvested 73"+ bluefin, there are at least 10 caught and retained recreational bluefin. See it every day I fish. Not trying to start a debate about this, but look around you next time and count the number of recreational boats around you. I won't even get in to the number of boats who do not hold a recreational HMS Permit or hold a permit and do not report their catch.
PJJR are you kidding? For every commercially harvested 73"+ bluefin, there are at least 10 caught and retained recreational bluefin. See it every day I fish. Not trying to start a debate about this, but look around you next time and count the number of recreational boats around you. I won't even get in to the number of boats who do not hold a recreational HMS Permit or hold a permit and do not report their catch.
Where do you get your statistics from?
Commercial guys take (and commercial includes head boats, charter boats and longliners) take a far greater share of the Bluefin catch than recreationals - at 1 or 2 per trip ever do or for that matter could.
You think the pew assholes and the other enviro-nazi douchebags in the obummer admin are gonna stop here? If you do, you'r eeven more stupid than the comments you just made indicate...
Where do you get your statistics from?
Commercial guys take (and commercial includes head boats, charter boats and longliners) take a far greater share of the Bluefin catch than recreationals - at 1 or 2 per trip ever do or for that matter could.
Can you please explain to me how the wide open YEAR LONG slaughter of sub 73" fish is ok. Check your numbers cause the amount of recs fars exceeds the number of commercial. Right now they are doing there thing off of hatteras putting plenty of small fish on the dock and not a single plus 73" is being sold. I understand that each region should get a go at their shot for the recs in a season however the mismanagement of the rec fishery is just appalling. I would consider the piss poor management of the rec fishery in line with how bad the med is managed.
Originally Posted by LI32
Where do you get your statistics from>
Commercial guys take (and commercial includes head boats, charter boats and longliners) take a far greater share of the Bluefin catch than recreationals - at 1 or 2 per trip ever do or for that matter could.
Tunascapes : What "you see" is not the WHOLE REALITY, the # of permits are simply permits, not catches. The amount of tuna caught commercially is 90% of the problem. Do you think that the foreign fleets don't keep small fish ?
According to NMFS Landing Reports commercial fisherman in 2009 landed a total of 2,487 fish which represented only 42.1% of their alloted quota.
Charter/Headboat operators are considered recreational and are not included in commercial landing reports (unless they have declared a trip commercial and fish under commercial restricitons).
Recreational anglers do in fact catch many more bluefin tuna than commercials. This is why we are concerned that if a CITES I listing is approved there is a very likely chance that the US Fish & Wildlife service would have a severe problem with recreational fisherman killing the "babies" of an endangered species. They have just banned the taking of wolfish and they are only considered a "species of concern", so the pressure will be on them to close down the tuna fishery by enviromental groups who have been advocating such.
Fisherman need to stand together in this battle and not point fingers at one sector or another...thats exactly what the antis are hoping for. JMO
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2005 2325 Pacific Plate Alloy Boat
USCG 50Ton Master
Maine Tidewater Guide
here the end to tuna fishing 
