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Old 02-02-2010, 12:25 PM
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I thought Stellwagen is closed year round to commercial cod fishing even for hook gear 911,912,913.
BigShrimpin....I am not up to speed on all the commercial regs but I know commercial fishing is allowed on Stellwagen at times during the year. Go there on June 1 and you will find a golf course of gill net flags that spring up after midnight. I believe there is (was) a gill net season for haddock on Jeffreys this winter as well.

Capt Dave has a better handle on commercial regs than I so I hope he chimes in ( and maybe also gives me those numbers he is fishing on right now )
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Codfisher,

Sorry I did not respond on this earlier. I have caught a good number of wolfish myself over the years, and believe most of the time, the jig has foul-hooked them, and usually, not in the mouth. Since they are the best eating fish in the ocean due to what they eat, I never had any hesitation taking a fillet knife to cut the jig's hooks out of their bodies, and with their heads trying to lock down on me, I really gave no heed as to whether I'd slashed out a good piece of them, as I would be filleting them later.

It seems to me an awful waste to throw them back as shark bait after salvaging a $20.00 jig from them, as more likely than not, it'll leave a 2 or 3" gash in them where the treble hooks got cut out. I haven't caught a wolfish in a couple of years, but when I did, I remember they can become quite agitated when you try to hold them gently.

When did the denial of wolfish occur? Are their numbers endangered?
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BigShrimpin....I am not up to speed on all the commercial regs but I know commercial fishing is allowed on Stellwagen at times during the year. Go there on June 1 and you will find a golf course of gill net flags that spring up after midnight. I believe there is (was) a gill net season for haddock on Jeffreys this winter as well.

Capt Dave has a better handle on commercial regs than I so I hope he chimes in ( and maybe also gives me those numbers he is fishing on right now )

Thanks!! That's good to know . . . I had always thought that area was off limits.
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Well Save some for us little guys Dave.
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When did the denial of wolfish occur? Are their numbers endangered?
The wolfish question is about as bad as the "can I skin fillets at seas question".

Simply put the powers to be dont know if they are overfished or not but simply decided to close down the fishery after some enviros started making it a cause celeb..remember the squeeky wheel.

I my opinion I think it is an absolute waste of a fishery resource. To the best of my knowledge wolfish have been a by catch spieces for both recreational and commercial fisherman. Last year I ran 44 charters for ground fish and we took 5 wolfs the entire season. On my boat, my customers jig 98% of the time and therefore all these fish were taken on jigs. All of them were mouth hooked and needed to be dispatched before I could remove the jig. Unfortunatley, when this rule comes into place and a customer takes a wolf that has eaten a jig, I will have to dispatch the fish, remove the jig, and throw the fish back. I cannot afford to throw away $15 jigs everytime one gets eaten by a wolf. I consider this a terrible waste but my hands are tied. Perhaps one of the genius scientists can come on my boat and show me how to release a jig caught wolf without loosing a couple fingers. I am always willing to learn but I need to be sure to restock the first aid kit first.

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Yup, it's open. Plenty of draggers, gillnetters and a few hook fishermen out there. Plenty of cod too.

Relative to filleting cod at sea, I also believe the fillet has to be over the minimum length size and if not, you need to retain the carcass to show it was taken from a legal sized fish.
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I was out there on the corner last week. 30 boats jiggin. All the nets were north in deeper water.
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I was out there on the corner last week. 30 boats jiggin. All the nets were north in deeper water.
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Yea, last week when it was nice there were plenty of jig boats out there. This past weekend not many at all since it was so cold.
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Relative to filleting cod at sea, I also believe the fillet has to be over the minimum length size and if not, you need to retain the carcass to show it was taken from a legal sized fish.

Interesting. I didn't believe there was a fillet size requirement but after reading your comment I took another look at Title 50 and found the following 2 clauses:

§ 648.89 Recreational and charter/party vessel restrictions

(2) Exception. Vessels may possess fillets less than the minimum size specified, if the fillets are taken from legal-sized fish and are not offered or intended for sale, trade or barter.

Which seems to say fillets on GOM cod may be < 24"

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(4) The minimum fish size applies to whole fish or to any part of a fish while possessed on board either a charter/party or a private recreational vessel, or at the time of landing.

Which seems to say that for example, GOM cod fillets must be 24" in length thus implying either you keep only cod much greater than 24" or you are one hell of a fish cutter! To say the least it is ambiguous.

I could no reference to the retaining of racks in the entire chapter.

Guess I make a call to Gloucester today and try to get an answer...another futile Wednesday ;-).
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George, agreed it may be alittle ambiguous but common sense needs to apply here. If you got a 24" fillet, no problem because common sense says the fish was over the size limit.

If you got a 16" fillet you now got to be able to prove it came from a legal size fish and the only way I know how to do that is have the rack on board.

My rule of thumb is if the fillet is over 24", dump the rack, if under 24" save the rack for proof. You won't get into trouble this way.
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What is the bait (or jig, or combo) of choice this time of year?
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I got more than a two week jump on you, I was out commercial cod fishing Sunday. A little nippy, freezing spray, icing on the rod and reel, but non-stop action with the cod. Didn't even have to jig, fish were on before it even hit the bottom for a couple of hours straight.
Your killing me my boat doesn't go in until April. Please stop the torture
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My rule of thumb is if the fillet is over 24", dump the rack, if under 24" save the rack for proof. You won't get into trouble this way.
Makes sense Dave...besides my pet lobsters love the racks
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alright, enough is enough, I am going Cod fishing on a party boat.
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alright, enough is enough, I am going Cod fishing on a party boat.
I want in I cant take it. KFISHC post the info on the charter a friend and I may be interested. I wish global warming would hurry up so I would'nt have to winterize my boat.
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What is the bait (or jig, or combo) of choice this time of year?
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Most days the party boats out of Pt Judith or Snug harbor RI have been doing well. Check the party boat forum on Noreast
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http://www.francesfleet.com/

This is what I had my eye on....

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Thanks for the tip. I am very tempted to try some of the inshore humps off plymouth if the right combo of weather/weekend roll around...

I was thinking wait till april, but now not so sure
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This is what I had my eye on....

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