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The rules state, to keep a tuna you must have a permit. A boat must have a registration to get a permit. you can only fish from a permitted boat.
Q: If I witness a violation of NMFS regulations, how do I report it? A: Please call the 24-hour NMFS Enforcement Hotline at (800) 853-1964. You may also call the U.S. Coast Guard Hotline at (800) SAVE-FISH. You do not need to give your name when you call.
Q: May I fish for Atlantic tunas without a vessel (e.g., from an oil rig or from shore)? A: No, only permitted vessels may fish for Atlantic bluefin, bigeye, albacore, yellowfin, and skipjack tunas in the Atlantic, Gulf of Mexico, and the Caribbean. If one of these species is caught incidentally during fishing activities from shore or from an oil rig, it must be released immediately.
Q: If I want to fish for Atlantic tunas, do I need a permit? Which species and what areas are covered? A: Yes, owner/operators of state registered and Coast Guard Documented vessels fishing for Atlantic bluefin, bigeye, yellowfin, albacore, or skipjack tuna in the Atlantic, including the Gulf of Mexico and the Caribbean Sea, must obtain a permit. Only one category may be assigned to a vessel per year. The permit categories are as follows: General category (commercial tuna); Charter/Headboat (commercial tuna and recreational HMS); Angling category (recreational HMS); Harpoon category (commercial tuna); Trap category (commercial tuna); Purse Seine category (limited access); Longline (limited access).
Hey Bluefin73 I guess I should change my name to Bluefin91 as that is the biggest one I have boated. What's your point DB? Are you jealous? Guess so. How about the guys who catch one while surf fishing? What you think they should throw it back? I went after Bfins yesterday about 3 miles off the beach. We were into big fish breaking on the surface in about 10 minutes. We had no luck in getting one to bite. We trolled, we jigged, we chunked and threw poppers all we caught were huge yellow eyed monsters. I did hear a guy trolling on up next to the beach on a rubber sand eel. Good for him. NO ONE asked if he had a permit. Does anyone know if the kayak has a permit? If not shut TFU it's none of your business. The thread was about the catch and not about if he has a stink'in permit.
Maybe he registered his kayak even though MA doesn't require him to so he could get a valid permit. Since you can register a rowboat so you have the option of using an outboard on it, I don't see why you couldn't do the same with a kayak.
Maybe he made up a vessel name for his permit but it isn't registered with the state or USCG. In that case even though he's not technically following the rules he'd still be catching from a boat and reporting his catch. What would be the harm to you, to other anglers, or to the fishery?
Maybe most of us don't think its a big deal. If you feel like you've been wronged by his actions go ahead and call him (or that 800 number) yourself and ask.
ok, so the rules are just for the people that ??? Then this year lets, forget the permits, fish after hours, take the short ones,fish out side the permit areas, hell it don't matter. Lets net right up to the beach, might catch a kid, thats ok someone will buy it , and eat it, Why are their any stink'n rules any ways. Not sure, but i know when i put a trap 1 minunte after the time i get a shits load of crap, from everyone. I fish out side the range of where you can fish. bam, screw again. so I am the only one that follows the rules??? no, there are reasons why we have rules.
To the A-Holes who thought this guy was breaking the law....
I fish P-Town almost daily and personally saw this guy hook up and land this fish.
The Kayak has a side mounted aluminum armstrong bracket with a 40hp Suzuki 2 stroke engine that is off loaded onto a chase boat after the guy gets out and starts to fish.You could clearly see the N.J.registration on the bow and the name "Jersy Dude" on the stern so give the dude a break for cripes sake and worry about something important
... The Kayak has a side mounted aluminum armstrong bracket with a 40hp Suzuki 2 stroke engine ...
Wow!
That's what, 350 pounds? Must be a HUGE kayak! Does he counter-balance it with a rack for his fuel tank and other ballast? Hmm... Maybe he could switch to twin 20's. Or is the other side reserved for bait and beer?
Inquiring mind wants to know.
(I see your sarcasm and raise you... )
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The Kayak has a side mounted aluminum armstrong bracket with a 40hp Suzuki 2 stroke engine that is off loaded onto a chase boat after the guy gets out and starts to fish.
I have no bone in this fight and really don't care what he does but I think you just pointed out one of the areas in question. Here's a link to the Atlantic Tunas Convention Act: http://www.gc.noaa.gov/schedules/2-U...luefinTuna.pdf
Note the fifth violation listed, it reads "Fishing with vessel not able to travel to and from grounds, from which tuna cannot be brought under control without help"
Off loading of a propulsion system to a chase boat is clearly help. The need for a chase boat in itself is anticipation of needing help.
I have no bone in this fight and really don't care what he does but I think you just pointed out one of the areas in question. Here's a link to the Atlantic Tunas Convention Act: http://www.gc.noaa.gov/schedules/2-U...luefinTuna.pdf
Note the fifth violation listed, it reads "Fishing with vessel not able to travel to and from grounds, from which tuna cannot be brought under control without help"
Off loading of a propulsion system to a chase boat is clearly help. The need for a chase boat in itself is anticipation of needing help.
I believe your interpretation of this rule to be incorrect in this situation. The vessel "Jersy Dude" was not at anytime "able to travel to and from grounds, from which tuna cannot be brought under control without help" The captain at all times maintained the ability to do this without help and his decision to offload the propulsion systems to the chase boat was optional and not "needed"
Reporter: "wow, so you caught a 160 lb tuna from a kayak? That’s incredible"
Mighty white hunter (MWH) "well yeah, it is"
Reporter: "must have taken you a while to get to it"
MWH: "well, I used a 40 HP motor for a little help, but I offload it when I'm actually fighting the fish so it doesn't matter."
Reporter: “and how long does it take to reel in a 160 lb tuna?"
MWH: "well depending on the size of the float I attach to it, a couple of hours."
reporter: " and how long did it take to bring it back in to shore, once you reeled it in?"
MWH: "Oh, I had help for that part - my chase boat is always nearby"
Reporter: "so, what's your next goal?"
MWH: "Well, the team is off to Africa, where we will be going after an elephant with a slingshot."
Reporter: "unbelievable! How are you going to do that?"
MWH: "Well, the elephant will be in a hole, tied down, not a huge one, more like a baby, and the slingshot fires miniature grenades. But it’s rough out there, let me tell you – If we run out of wine and steak, or if we need more toilet paper, we need to pay some of the local support crew extra – and it can take days.”
Reporter: “I see… Well, good luck to you.”
MWH “it’s not luck, it takes guts…”
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