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Old 10-29-2009, 07:24 AM
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Breathed a major sigh of relief when I saw the breaking news chiron stating that they were ok on Fox this morning...

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it had to be crappy out there. Great ending.
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GREAT news!! Love to hear the good ones, unfortunately they usually don't turn out so positive.

2 Questions:
1. Does it really get that bad/rough in cape cod bay? I thought it was pretty well protected in there...? Never been there, just looks it on the charts.

2. They drag "in" the bay? What do they drag for in there?
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GREAT news!! Love to hear the good ones, unfortunately they usually don't turn out so positive.

2 Questions:
1. Does it really get that bad/rough in cape cod bay? I thought it was pretty well protected in there...? Never been there, just looks it on the charts.

2. They drag "in" the bay? What do they drag for in there?
yeah it gets rough in the bay, its a big bay.
Chris was scalloping I belive but we would sea clam with a pump dredge and quohog inshore. I fished out of wellfleet for years on my old mans quohog boat and know Chris quite well. Glad they made it, the Bay gets very big very quick.
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GREAT news!! Love to hear the good ones, unfortunately they usually don't turn out so positive.

2 Questions:
1. Does it really get that bad/rough in cape cod bay? I thought it was pretty well protected in there...? Never been there, just looks it on the charts.

2. They drag "in" the bay? What do they drag for in there?
When the wind goes NE it can get real ugly in the Bay. Yesterday was a good honest 4-6 with the wave sets throwng an 7-8 footer at you every few minutes.

Most of the guys here drag for sea clams except when there are scallops to be had and I believe that is what Chris and Matt where fishing.

The 25knt NE wind worked in their favor last night as it had pushed them almost back to land. If this had happened out of Chatham there may have been a different outcome.
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Great! That is good news. I'm just finding out now.
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GREAT news!! Love to hear the good ones, unfortunately they usually don't turn out so positive.

2 Questions:
1. Does it really get that bad/rough in cape cod bay? I thought it was pretty well protected in there...? Never been there, just looks it on the charts.

2. They drag "in" the bay? What do they drag for in there?

Birdman... Its not like Zacks Bay.

Cape Cod Bay is the Atlantic Ocean.

It would be the equivalant of going out through Jones Inet.
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Gotcha. I can see a N wind would do it as the north isn't blocked at all. I guess it's bigger than I thought.

On another subject, how is it that scallops seems to show up in an area, guys drag for them and do well, and then one day they are gone and don't show up for a while? Are they "catching" them all (overfishing them) and a few years later they come back from being left alont? OR, do they actually migrate further than you'd expect a shellfish to move? Always wondered that.
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Scallops move around to different bottoms depending on the season and weather. There are also scallop beds. At one time the government thought scallops were suffering from ove fishing but a study from MIT proved them wrong. They also developed a better dredge for fishermen to catch more with less effort. That is how the price of Sea scallops got so low.
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i am very glad everyones ok.i lost two fisherman friends of mine in the last 7 yr.s so i can relate.survival suits.raft is mandatory on all commercial vessels.
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Boatsman: Question for you on the scallops... Dont they aslo raise seed scallops and put them in protective harbors like nantucket's harbor as well as other protective areas? My other question is how fast do they grow in a year? just curious if you know the answers...
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Surfside, I do believe they seed bay scallops in some areas. I got in and out of scalloping so fast I wouldn't be a good source of information. Maybe some of the guys down the Cape can give you good answers.
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They don't force comm boats to carry survival suits/epirbs/rafts for no good reason.....

Glad they were found safe. Weird that they used a cell phone instead of the epirb though.
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Wonderful to hear they are safe. I can't imagine how scary that must be!
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They don't force comm boats to carry survival suits/epirbs/rafts for no good reason.....

Glad they were found safe. Weird that they used a cell phone instead of the epirb though.
I find myself going out in weather that I shouldn't just trying to make the extra money get all the stuff they want me to have updated or replaced.
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I find myself going out in weather that I shouldn't just trying to make the extra money get all the stuff they want me to have updated or replaced.
Pretty ironic I guess. They call that the law of unintended consequences, but I'll bet those 2 guys are glad the owner had to keep the stuff serviceable.

I have the luxury of picking my weather days, and I cancel more trips than I take, but I still have all the safety gear, including 6 gumby suits. Cuz ya just never know.
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Pretty ironic I guess. They call that the law of unintended consequences, but I'll bet those 2 guys are glad the owner had to keep the stuff serviceable.

I have the luxury of picking my weather days, and I cancel more trips than I take, but I still have all the safety gear, including 6 gumby suits. Cuz ya just never know.
They were the 2 guys keeping their stuff servicable. the way you word it it sounds like you are implying commercial fisherman have no regard for thier saftey or the saftey of their crew. I personnaly know the previous 2 owners of that vessel and fished it in wellfleet harbor when I was little. although it was wood it was kept in good shape. had a real low freeboard in the stern, I would guess 30" or so and was stern rigged. they had time to make a phone call and don their survival suits so I would guess they knew they were getting into trouble, perhaps a mechanical issue but I do not know, only speculation.
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They were the 2 guys keeping their stuff servicable. the way you word it it sounds like you are implying commercial fisherman have no regard for thier saftey or the saftey of their crew. I personnaly know the previous 2 owners of that vessel and fished it in wellfleet harbor when I was little. although it was wood it was kept in good shape. had a real low freeboard in the stern, I would guess 30" or so and was stern rigged. they had time to make a phone call and don their survival suits so I would guess they knew they were getting into trouble, perhaps a mechanical issue but I do not know, only speculation.
Not at all. I thought I read that were fishing someone else's boat, not their own. All I was implying is that someone else may have been responsible for maintaining the safety gear.

I didn't mean to imply they or any one else didn't maintain the gear.
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I'm commercial and I have to go because of the expences forced on me. I would rather work when it is safer but I can't pay for everything they want me to have and my bills too. I been in the water twice. This occupation was dangerious enough without all the regulation changes over the past 30 years. Most of the danger is due to regulations.
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Wonderful to hear they are safe good news
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