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Old 08-19-2008, 05:32 PM
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Default 8/19 How Ruge Rolls with Riptide!!!!!

Today Shaun and I decided to go out and try for some tuna on the spining gear ourselves. We got up at 0600 and got a nice leisurely start. We splashed in Sandwich and ran out in to the Bay. I headed for the numbers where we got fish the other day. Within a 1/2 mile of my numbers we spot some nice size fish spraying halfbeaks. We get our shot and I get tight on the second cast. I worked the fish hard since we were hoping to do some tagging today. About 50' from the boat I pulled a bit too hard and POP! I break the fish off. Single hook on a Got Styper rubber so the hook should rust out and I got back most of my flouro. Back on the hunt.

A few minutes later we Ruge gets tight on another fish with a money cast and he leans on the fish HARD. Once again SEE YA! Pulled hook! We are now 0 for 2 but really not that upset. The bites are coming fast and the fish are all around. These are the days we try to find the limits of the gear and we have gone beyond the limits twice.

Next shot comes on some breaking fish a few minutes later. This fish gets worked over and gets the lip gaff and darted with a Tag A Tiny tag and released. 58" and nice and fat. We are on the board and the fish are still around. Once again we are back on the hunt.

The bite slowed up on top and we began to hunt the fish a little deeper. We found a few whales and birds with some nice marks under the boat. Ruge makes a blind cast and an absolute MONSTER takes two swings at it. Both misses, but this fish is HUGE!!! Ruge gets the second cast in and a "smaller" fish eats. Ruges tight and says the fish is "not that big" With that statement the fish tears off an insane run and Ruge can't even slow it down. Half the Penn 950's spool is gone which is about 350 yards of line and still going. I fire up the Contender and we are in pursuit! Ruge's all over this fish but it wants no part of him or the boat.


Twenty minutes into the fight. We get color a few times 80' out from the boat. Its a nice fish, but still doesn't look that big. On the horizon is a HUGE elelctrical storm and its heading our way. Mike C calls on the cell to tell us the WX chanel shows it to be a nasty one and we should head for the barn. I tell him Ruge's 30 minutes deep into this fish and he's not breaking it off. Mike C wishes us luck and I get to dropping the antenna, stowing rods, getting the HD video camera into its dry case and suring up everything for the impending Doom and Gloom.

Five minutes later we are in a monsoon! The lighting is crashing between us and land, the rain is coming down in sheets and Ruge can't move this fish. At 45 minutes I get a grab on the leader but I can't get a shot with the lip gaff. The fish is now a legit "caught" fish, but we want to photo and tag it. It takes another 5 minutes for Ruge to get the fish up to leader range again. I get the leader and make a quick shot with the lip gaff. The fish is smoked and so is Ruge. We now get the first REALLY good look at the fish and Ruge says TAKE IT! I'm shocked at how big this thing is on the lip gaff. Ruge gets the real gaff and sinks it into the fish's mouth right next to the lipper. The two of us heave ho and the fish comes over the gunnel. Its a STUD! I grab the cloth tape and get a good measure on the fish......68"!!!!

SIXTY EIGHT INCHES is the largest tuna on spinning gear we have taken on my boat. It's Ruge's largest fish ever! We are pumped! As much as we were hoping to tag and release the fish he was cooked enough that I could hold him with the lip gaff without any struggle. It's Ruge's first fish of the season he's kept and the first one I've taken personally.





Final tally for the day 2 for 4, with 1 tag and release 58'er and on 68"er on the boat. The fish was landed on a St Croix Saltwater Premier 7' Rod rated 20-40# with a Penn 950ssm Reel loaded with 650 yards of 50# Spiderwire Ultracast and 8' of Seaguar 50# flouro. Both fish ate a Got Stryper white rubber bait that the guys at Got Stryper asked me to try out for them. I guess they work! The water temp was 67 degrees and the fish was full of sandeels, although we saw them chasing halfbeaks. Th water was 140' deep and it was clear and sunny at first then the sky opened up and we got soaked in the middle of a downpour.

Overall what can I say? It was a KILLER day OTW. We were trying out some new baits and a leaning on the fish to get a good feel for what the gear would take. I think we found out the biats work well and we have a pretty good idea of the limits of the gear. I think the St Croix / Penn Combo has a keepr tuna left in it, but not much more than that. I'm guessing 73" is gonna be the limit on this gear. It's nice to have a combo that makes a 50# sporty but still has the stones to do a fish like this when the time comes. A HUGE congrats to Ruge for a fish of a lifetime! HD Video to follow!
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Old 08-19-2008, 05:51 PM
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Nice Job Terry!

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where were you guys fishing and id you see any other boats having luck
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where were you guys fishing and id you see any other boats having luck
They were fishing in Florida and no... there were no other boats catching any Tuna.
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Old 08-20-2008, 04:44 AM
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well I was thinking of heading up tot he cape this weekend and I have never fished there , usually keep the boat in rhode isalnd but want a change of scenery just looking for some suggestions
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Old 08-20-2008, 07:28 AM
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I don't know where Terry fishes but the SWC of Stellwagen bank is the closest point of Stellwagen to Sandwich. Not that this is the only place to locate Tuna. The SWC has been a parking lot the past few weekends but several boats caught multiple fish this past weekend. Good Luck.

Terry or anyone else who knows, where can I get my hands on Got Stryper lures? I have seen them at a few trade shows but no where else. BTW nice fish on 50# braid. I have a few guys who laugh at me when I cast 60# spectra with 60# flouro and your catch just proves you can get them to the boat with the right kind of technique.
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Nice fish Terry! I have the same setup (7' St. Croix Premier w/ Penn 950ssm), and I'm wondering what you set your drag at? Did you adjust it at all, or did you set it with a scale and leave it?
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That's just not fair ! Awesome job.
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I set the drags by hand/feel on my spinning rods, unlike my trolling stuff. But I have scaled them to see. They run around 14-17# on a drag scale. Shaun also palmed the spool a bit as needed and then let the drag do the work when the fish ran.

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Great color in that fish.......
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Thanks Terry...time to get on the water and get some action myself!
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A guy from Chatham named Alan makes Got Stryper lures. Only a few tackle shops carry his baits, I think M&D's B&T carries them in Wareham, but you might be best off getting them by contacting Alan directly through his website www.gotstryper.com.

I've fished them primarily for bass and they work great.

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I don't know where Terry fishes but the SWC of Stellwagen bank is the closest point of Stellwagen to Sandwich. Not that this is the only place to locate Tuna. The SWC has been a parking lot the past few weekends but several boats caught multiple fish this past weekend. Good Luck.

Terry or anyone else who knows, where can I get my hands on Got Stryper lures? I have seen them at a few trade shows but no where else. BTW nice fish on 50# braid. I have a few guys who laugh at me when I cast 60# spectra with 60# flouro and your catch just proves you can get them to the boat with the right kind of technique.
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When you are releasing them, what kind of lip gaff are you using? Or do you mean you are gaffing them through the jaw then turning them loose? Do you use a dehooking device or simply lean over with some pliers?
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Some guys gaff fish they plan on releasing but I really do not think that it is the right thing to do. I do not see why it is necessary as you do not need to do it to release giants so why would you have to resort to that with smaller fish? Take a few wraps on the line and pull the fish alongside the boat while going ahead at an idle and either take the lure out, or if you are using a single hook and cannot get it out, cut the leader directly above the hook.I think there are better ways of accomplishing the task than gaffing the thing.

Terry has caught a lot of these small tuna and has more experience than a lot of guys and so its one thing if he is going to attempt gaffing and releasing a fish...while its not the way I would be doing it, at least I have faith that he has done it enough to minimize the chance of hurting the fish...but it is not something that anyone should be encouraging everyone to try, as you can seriously hurt that fish trying to do it.

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Thanks twofinbluna.

Probably getting to cocky on my part, but last two times out I've landed a fish. Each time we took the fish then headed home as I have never tried to release a fish that large (that you can't net and send ****** but these guys who are catching multiples have me jonesing to try for more.
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Take a few wraps on the line and pull the fish alongside the boat while going ahead at an idle and either take the lure out, or if you are using a single hook and cannot get it out, cut the leader directly above the hook.I think there are better ways of accomplishing the task than gaffing the thing.
Thats easy to do with 200lb+ leaders but not with the 50 lb leaders we are using. Lip gaffs, used properly, are the best way but you do need to be careful especially with these bigger rats. Cutting the line close to the lure is also a good option and I do that when it is an inexpensive lure.
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WOW!!! I think that monster would have pulled my little boat underwater--Great Job and Congrats!!!!

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Take a few wraps on the line and pull the fish alongside the boat while going ahead at an idle and either take the lure out, or if you are using a single hook and cannot get it out, cut the leader directly above the hook.I think there are better ways of accomplishing the task than gaffing the thing.
Thats easy to do with 200lb+ leaders but not with the 50 lb leaders we are using. Lip gaffs, used properly, are the best way but you do need to be careful especially with these bigger rats. Cutting the line close to the lure is also a good option and I do that when it is an inexpensive lure.
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With 50lb leader it would deifnilty be tougher but as long as the fish is not too too big it can be done. The key is that when you take wraps that you let go if the pressure gets too tight. Even with the big heavy leaders and giants, you can snap the line by taking wraps if you are not careful. You have to take your wraps so that when the pressure gets tight you loosen the grip and the line slips out. If you use heavier line you will be able to do it easier, though.
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The bottom line is that no matter what your system of releasing the fish is, you need to do your best to give that fish a good chance to survive. That means getting it to the boat as quick as possible to begin with, and then taking the time and effort to release them right. The longer the fight the more stress on the fish and so the longer it will take to revive. If you are going to be doing C&R, these fish are worth the effort to release properly.

One other thing I want to say is that it sounds like this year the small fish are bigger, with more fish in the upper ranges of the small category, and so make sure you have the gear capable to catch a fish that size. If you have a good chance of getting a mid 60 inch fish you want to be able to deal with that fish. Last thing we want is to have a lot of fish out there swimming around with big squid rig or lure and hundreds of feet of braid attached to it. I know, its fishing and fish are going to be lost, I am just saying to do what you can to avoid the situation when you dont have the gear to catch the fish you hook up with.

You can catch fish bigger than what you are rigged for- Terry's fish above proves that. They fought that fish smartly, I am sure, and thats why they got it and did not break it off. In that situation, if you try and get it in qquick and extremely aggressive you will snap that line in no time and it takes time to do things right.

Lastly, I wanted to say also that I think Terry made a very good decision to keep that fish, too. That was a good one to eat because it was probably completely spent and would have struggled to revive that fish properly.




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why not use a dehooking tool?
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