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anyone have a 300 lb. federal handgear groundfish permit they're not using? I need one.
Since Diodati decided to close state waters again this winter,(and for at least two more years) the state groundfish endorsments are pretty much useless.
north coast - 10/17/2007 2:40 AManyone have a 300 lb. federal handgear groundfish permit they're not using? I need one.Since Diodati decided to close state waters again this winter,(and for at least two more years) the state groundfish endorsments are pretty much useless.
State waters are NOT closed this winter- just certain parts.
State waters open in Dec. N of 42 ° and are already open S of 42°
I suggest you look at the regs a little more carefully, and or change where you fish from
north coast - 10/18/2007 2:44 AMyea cap, unfortunately I know the regs all too well.
So - did you used to have a NE multi and gave it up or are you new to this and you, like many others were given a SWGE for nothing like anyone else who just had a license before the cut off date? I'm not starting anything with you - I just wondered why you don't have fed permit, now or anymore?
I liked it a lot better when we had to qualify through landings, this way we are going to have a lot more folks who can go and that just isn't going to work in the future, if they ever do open it back up.
I had a NE multi, that I gave up a long time ago to fish in the bay in the fall and the spring, and there was a conflict with closed areas to fed permitees so I gave it up, I shoulda gotten
another boat, if only I knew they were going to screw us little guys for not killing enough!
Don't you need a VMS ($1500 or so) and along with 12 months of 40 to 50 bucks per month of system fees on top of the cost of what you get the 300 pound permit for to fish hand gear in federal waters?.
Bampy - 10/18/2007 10:30 AMDon't you need a VMS ($1500 or so) and along with 12 months of 40 to 50 bucks per month of system fees on top of the cost of what you get the 300 pound permit for to fish hand gear in federal waters?.
Maybe? Either way it's not worth the 3500 bucks plus the cost of fuel plus the suits plus the raft plus the epirb plus... how on earth can you make a profit on 300 lousy pounds of cod?
Make friends with a gillnetter and take his discards in.... everyone else up there is doing it.
No I don't have one but I have priced them out and that is what the brokers are selling them for. Also this is a non- DAS permit so you don't need a VMS system for your boat. Kinda the selling point if you ask me
No I don't have one but I have priced them out and that is what the brokers are selling them for. Also this is a non- DAS permit so you don't need a VMS system for your boat. Kinda the selling point if you ask me
exactly, no vms ,no reporting ,I don't think you even need all the suits, epirb etc.. pretty appealing the way I see it.
north coast - 10/18/2007 2:44 AMyea cap, unfortunately I know the regs all too well.
So - did you used to have a NE multi and gave it up or are you new to this and you, like many others were given a SWGE for nothing like anyone else who just had a license before the cut off date? I'm not starting anything with you - I just wondered why you don't have fed permit, now or anymore?
I liked it a lot better when we had to qualify through landings, this way we are going to have a lot more folks who can go and that just isn't going to work in the future, if they ever do open it back up.
I had a NE multi, that I gave up a long time ago to fish in the bay in the fall and the spring, and there was a conflict with closed areas to fed permitees so I gave it up, I shoulda gotten
another boat, if only I knew they were going to screw us little guys for not killing enough!
Never had a federal permit ,never needed one. have had the state permit since you needed one to fish. fished cod for many ,many years before there WERE regs. I've been doing this since the days where you went out and kept whatever the hell you wanted to.
I gave up my fluke, striped bass, and groundfish licenses this year after 12years. Cost too much to renew every year hoping that I'd get back to the east coast someday. It was a great way to cover expenses and make a little extra money. Those days are gone forever . . . it's really sad. Good luck finding a permit!! If I ever get back there someday . . . I'll be looking for one.
Its all confusing to me. Is the cod conservation zone in effect again as of nov.1 . I keep hearing different interpretation of the rules . 2 fish per boat 75 pounds max.
Daysatsea - 10/18/2007 4:30 PMNo I don't have one but I have priced them out and that is what the brokers are selling them for. Also this is a non- DAS permit so you don't need a VMS system for your boat. Kinda the selling point if you ask me
exactly, no vms ,no reporting ,I don't think you even need all the suits, epirb etc.. pretty appealing the way I see it.
I am fairly sure you need the suits the raft and the epirb- either way. I know you do for tuna- so why would this be any different?
You don't need those for state waters though.
Instead of griping about not being able to catch fish in Ma waters with the SWGE- do something about it. Where was all the support for the ban on gill nets for ground fish in MA waters petition I submitted last year? Get rid of the gill nets and then get the state to let us have a hook fishery in state waters. Thats the real solution. Once the gill nets are gone, we can then get the state to figure out a management plan that doesn't have to account for un/under reported discards.
Once they can do that it should be a lot easier to mange a fishery with almost no discards and very good discard mortality rates.
The gillnetters stole this fishery from us, we need to take it back!
Daysatsea - 10/18/2007 4:30 PMNo I don't have one but I have priced them out and that is what the brokers are selling them for. Also this is a non- DAS permit so you don't need a VMS system for your boat. Kinda the selling point if you ask me
exactly, no vms ,no reporting ,I don't think you even need all the suits, epirb etc.. pretty appealing the way I see it.
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I am fairly sure you need the suits the raft and the epirb- either way.* I know you do for tuna- so why would this be any different?
You don't need those for state waters though.
*Instead of griping about not being able to catch fish in Ma waters with the SWGE- do something about it. Where was all the support for the ban on gill nets for ground fish in MA waters petition I submitted last year?* Get rid of the gill nets and then get the state to let us have a hook fishery in state waters.* Thats the real solution.* Once the gill nets are gone, we can then get the state to figure out a management plan that doesn't have to account for un/under reported discards.
Once they can do that it should be a lot easier to mange a fishery with almost no discards and very good discard mortality rates.
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The gillnetters stole this fishery from us, we need to take it back!*
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As much as I find your posts a little abrasive, I can't find an argument with this one. probably ain't ever gonna' happen though .makes too much sense.
And rest assured, I couldn't make it( kids) but Paul heard from me during those meetings. I just asked him recently why were not considering a much reduced quota in the"cod conservation zone" (where i fish/ or should I say used to fish) Instead of closing completely every year now. back in the years when the limits were 200 and 400 lbs most of the gillnetters didn't bother. yea, no ones gettin rich on 2-400 lbs but the price is consistantly higher and a hook boat got a limit every day. to me, this makes sense too. it's why it too will never happen.
300 lb. federal permit 
