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Just returned from the Miami Show and saw a lot of nice boats and spoke with the builders including my personal favorite, Albury Brothers, Regulator, Yellow Fin and the Maverick people. However i was really impressed by Black Lab Marine and Jay Perrotta and his new boat, Rock Salt 34. I had never been on a plate alloy boat before and had a lot of misconceptions. The boat is hull #1, [I think] and it was spacious, plenty of room to fish and built like a tank. I don't think there is anything you could do to these boats to hurt them.
It was my 1st time at the Miami Boat show.. I didn't see the Albury. Were they displaying at the convention center or did you have to go to the brokerage show or something?
I asked around about the Albury - consensus was they are built like tanks but ride wet. I love the styling and have seen them all over the Bamahas. How's the ride? Is it really that wet?
Albury was outside, on the west side of the convention center. IMHO, it was very crowded out there and was not laid out the best. In fact, I almost missed Albury, and Canyon Bay too.
It's been a while since I read through it, but as I recall Albury has an extensive fiberglass layup schedule - multiple layers of glass. I think the hulls are over 1 inch thick of solid glass - so they are very overbuilt. Probably due to low production numbers and extra steps/materials in the building process their costs are higher. I hear ya though, it's alot of bucks for the boat and they lack creature comforts.
It was my 1st time at the Miami Boat show.. I didn't see the Albury.** Were they displaying at the convention center or did you have to go to the brokerage show or something?**
*I asked around about the Albury - consensus was they are built like tanks but ride wet.** I love the styling and have seen them all over the Bamahas.* How's the ride?* Is it really that wet?
As an Albury owner i would like to clarify two misconceptions stated in this thread. First the Albury's are one of the driest riding boats in their size range that you will find. Besides the fact that they have a classic look that turns heads, they are also known for their superb dry ride and the fit and finish of the boat. Another misconception is that they are really expensive which is, again not the case. Albury Brothers got their start and continue to this day building working boats for Bahamian craw-fishermen who surely do not have the means to afford expensive boats but do need a boat that is durable, seaworthy and will last a long time. Instead of making assumptions i would suggest giving Jeff Lichterman at Albury a call and I know you will be pleasantly surprised how affordable and competitively priced an Albury can be and IF you ever take a ride on one you will be convinced that they are one of the best riding boats, bar none in their size range. Albury's have been built since the 1950's and at any given time you will be hard pressed to find any used ones on the market, which says a lot about the boat IMO.
Instead of making assumptions i would suggest giving Jeff Lichterman at Albury a call and I know you will be pleasantly surprised how affordable and competitively priced an Albury can be
Oceanluvr:
I did get your message. Thanks. And, I did talk to Jeff seriously, at the 2008 Plam Beach show. Bottomline: a 20-footer with leaning post and back, stern bench seat, cloth T-top, and 175 power and hydraulic steering, standard white/blue paint was quoted at $68K, with no trailer and no electronics. While a beautiful boat, that put it out of my range quickly.
Instead of making assumptions i would suggest giving Jeff Lichterman at Albury a call and I know you will be pleasantly surprised how affordable and competitively priced an Albury can be
Oceanluvr:
I did get your message. Thanks. And, I did talk to Jeff seriously, at the 2008 Plam Beach show. Bottomline: a 20-footer with leaning post and back, stern bench seat, cloth T-top, and 175 power and hydraulic steering, standard white/blue paint was quoted at $68K, with no trailer and no electronics. While a beautiful boat, that put it out of my range quickly.
Raftguy, you are mistaken, I have a 20' with T-top, full electronics, gps, 175 Suzuki, hydraulic sterring and a trailer etc and it was no where near that price and I spoke with Jeff at the Miami show and the prices have not gone up since i bought my boat. I think you need to clarify this before you post an incorrect price on the forum since others will see this price and assume it is correct, which it is not.
Instead of making assumptions i would suggest giving Jeff Lichterman at Albury a call and I know you will be pleasantly surprised how affordable and competitively priced an Albury can be
Oceanluvr:
I did get your message. Thanks. And, I did talk to Jeff seriously, at the 2008 Plam Beach show. Bottomline: a 20-footer with leaning post and back, stern bench seat, cloth T-top, and 175 power and hydraulic steering, standard white/blue paint was quoted at $68K, with no trailer and no electronics. While a beautiful boat, that put it out of my range quickly.
OK, even if I was mistaken, which I am not, then the 23 is still quite expensive. That is more than I was quoted on an Everglades 243 with everything (trailer) minus the electronics.
IF your 20 foot price is reasonable then that is more like it.
Also you know who I am. We have spoken several times either at shows or while you were tooling around on the Loxahatchee. If you see a yellow 22 Pathfinder stop and say hi.
20' Albury's are priced from the mid-30's to high 40's plus trailer. 68K will buy you a fully loaded 23K with all the options
I got my 23 in spring '08 and oceanluvr is correct.
Cost/value is really the only complaint you ever see on Albury. Use the search function here and go back beyond the one year search default or go to other forums and you won't find a post made by someone that has ever been on one critical of the quality, ride or dryness. Mine might have been 10k more than the #2 boat on my short list, but that differential is the best boating money I ever spent.
I just looked through the press releases on the Albury site and they started building in FL in late '03 and celebrated their 100th boat in Nov '06. Do the math. That kind of low volume attention to detail by experienced people is going to cost more. If she is out of your budget, fine, but you do get what you pay for with Albury. Add in a superb hull design that absolutely does not pound, lands softly and is very, very dry and it's hard to consider owning something else.
albury bros. here, back home from the show.......and who set off the nuetron bomb in miami beach????????? i also met and spent some time with jay perotta and liked him and his boat very much. i offered to let him store the rock salt at my place until the palm beach show, and he accepted. so feel free to stop by and have a look at her.
here is the deal on albury pricing:
1. i don't know why every 23 owner lists his boat for sale for $69k. i know of 1 23 that sold used for $70k right off the dock to a passing motoryacht headed to tortola that needed a tender to tow. every other used 23 has sold for between $56k and $46k. regarding new 23 pricing, we are building 2 of them right now. the one we started laying up today is a very spartan commercial version that started out at $49K. the new owner added a few goodies at the miami show which will bring her in around $54K. the other we have in rigging started off at $60k and is now up in the high $60's after the owner added a bunch of extras including ski pole, garmin, etc. it's pretty typical for our new 23's to go out around $70K. i have seen them get into the $80's with twin engines, radar, trailer, etc, etc.
2. there has never been a used 20 sold in the US so i don't know the market. the base boat with power is in the mid-$40's. commercial versions will run about $10k less. nicely dressed, the 20's usually go out around $50k and i have never seen one go past the mid-50's.
3. when petroleum prices spiked this summer, i did not post the higher 2009 pricing because i hoped the increase would be short lived. i still have not put them up because even though gasoline prices came back down, resin and gelcoat still have not. my salesman told me at miami that he will be passing along the first decreases now.
as for the wet comment, it was probably made by someone who has never been in a albury, just looked at the lowish freeboard. these are the same people who assume the ride sucks because our boats are not 24 degree deadrise. i say; go for a RIDE!, or at least read eric sorenson to get the whole story on hull design.
guys I have a 08 23 Albury with a 225 and options. Ive had a 23 Regulator and Contender which were also nice boats, and both my neighbors have them now. I will say I am very pleased with this boat and out of all the CC boats I have owned I have had no problems to date, and the best part is, the ride is extremely dry and has a very soft re-entry. I do have it for sale in the classifieds..only to be ordering another Albury..Go for a ride and you will then understand how the bottom works vs conventional deadrise hulls. Jeff
Secondly I wanted to mention how stout the 34 Rock Salt was..I was extremely impressed as I am with there smaller siblings..God Job Jay. Jeff
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08 23' Albury Brothers 225 Zuke...extremely dry and by far the best riding 23 I've owned. SOLD
08 43' Nor-Tech Super V twin 700 Merc's and #6 drives..93. mph condo on the water. SOLD
Albury Brothers, Rock Salt...
