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Old 03-16-2017, 03:58 PM   #1
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Default Anyone running a 10" Wet Sounds Free Air sub?

Thinking about picking up 2 of these to compliment my SW65 speakers and to replace the Fusion self amplified box sub inside in my console.

Is anyone running these subs? How do they sound?
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Thinking about picking up 2 of these to compliment my SW65 speakers and to replace the Fusion self amplified box sub inside in my console.

Is anyone running these subs? How do they sound?
If the application is infinite baffle then two Wetsounds FA10s should do very well.
With any subwoofer product, the installation execution is very important to the final performance.
Power them at or at least close to their RMS rating with honest power.
What a gigantic upgrade from a self-contained Fusion sub!
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Infinite who?

The plan would be to install one starboard and one port in the center of the boat in the gunwale adjacent to the SW65 speaker, so essentially they would be facing each other, pointing in, separated by the center console. The boat is two piece construction so there is plenty of depth and hollow cavity for them to recess into. Running 6 SW65's currently.
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Go all the way and get SW-650's to compliment those subs!
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Go all the way and get SW-650's to compliment those subs!
I just bought the SW65's from ya last year!

Ps, one of the 65's blew (just stopped working), sent you an e-mail this evening, need to see about a replacement.
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BTW, the 65's were a HUGE improvement over the Fusion speakers they replaced. Very happy with them, well except the one blowing after a year.
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Before we can discuss sub / subs, what amp or amps do you intend to run?
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Speakers should always be selected first and determine amplification. The sub power was lost since the Fusion self-powered sub is being replaced. So if no other power needs to be added beyond that driving the new subwoofers, a Wetsounds HTX1 monoblock would be the choice for two FS10s in the 4-ohm version. I would prefer that over a bridged 4-channel or any other combinations.
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I have a 4 channel amp powering the 6 WS speakers but will need to figure out what single or 2 channel amp to run for the two subs.
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Looking at the Bazooka MA1600D 600W RMS Monoblock Class D Compact Marine Amplifier.

•RMS Power Rating:
◦4 ohms: 320 watts x 1 chan.
◦2 ohms: 600 watts x 1 chan.


I've always had good luck w/Bazooka products, reviews on this amp seem pretty good, obviously not an audio show winner, but then again I don't have an audio show winning sounding system in my boat.

Anyone have any experience w/this amp?
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Well Jim/BOE twisted my arm and talked me into 2 10" WS subs today and conveniently had them in stock.
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Well Jim/BOE twisted my arm and talked me into 2 10" WS subs today and conveniently had them in stock.
You were a soft target. Thought I was going to get you to buy 5!
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F N F. Take some photos of the hole when you get it cut or have the dead speaker out. I was thinking of doing the same on my O4 236 but it did not seam like the space between the liner and the Hull was deep enough to clear the basket and magnet. Rag's
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F N F. Take some photos of the hole when you get it cut or have the dead speaker out. I was thinking of doing the same on my O4 236 but it did not seam like the space between the liner and the Hull was deep enough to clear the basket and magnet. Rag's
Well, got the new replacement speaker in yesterday (thanks Jim) that was in the stern and before you posted this otherwise I would have taken a picture of the cutout. There is plenty of space for speakers and these subs to be mounted mid ship, at least on my boat, it has a 4.72" mounting depth. Other subs from other makers are deeper. At mid ship the distance between the liner and hull increases the lower on the gunnel you go, but figured these will fit nicely about a 1/3 the way up and just below the 6.5's. The speakers have a 2.5" mounting depth.

I will take a picture when the hole is cut out for the subs, but it's going to be a few weeks.
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Well, got the new replacement speaker in yesterday (thanks Jim) that was in the stern and before you posted this otherwise I would have taken a picture of the cutout. There is plenty of space for speakers and these subs to be mounted mid ship, at least on my boat, it has a 4.72" mounting depth. Other subs from other makers are deeper. At mid ship the distance between the liner and hull increases the lower on the gunnel you go, but figured these will fit nicely about a 1/3 the way up and just below the 6.5's. The speakers have a 2.5" mounting depth.

I will take a picture when the hole is cut out for the subs, but it's going to be a few weeks.
Unlike fullrange/coaxial speakers, with subwoofers the lower and closer to the sole they are located, the greater the bass output. As long as you aren't going to be making constant ankle contact farther down.
When a subwoofer and coaxial speaker are mounted in very close proximity of each other, and in the same cavity, it's a good idea to acoustically isolate the two. This keeps the subwoofer from modulating the smaller speaker and avoids distortion in the smaller speaker.
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F N F. Take some photos of the hole when you get it cut or have the dead speaker out. I was thinking of doing the same on my O4 236 but it did not seam like the space between the liner and the Hull was deep enough to clear the basket and magnet. Rag's
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Unlike fullrange/coaxial speakers, with subwoofers the lower and closer to the sole they are located, the greater the bass output. As long as you aren't going to be making constant ankle contact farther down.
When a subwoofer and coaxial speaker are mounted in very close proximity of each other, and in the same cavity, it's a good idea to acoustically isolate the two. This keeps the subwoofer from modulating the smaller speaker and avoids distortion in the smaller speaker.
Thanks. Not sure that isolating the subs in this case will be possible. how close is too close?
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David, would one of the soft styrofoam speaker baskets like what is used in car doors installed on the Back of the 6.5 help in this situation?? As I believe you are right about unwanted isolation caused by the pressure of the subwoofer. Rag's
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David, would one of the soft styrofoam speaker baskets like what is used in car doors installed on the Back of the 6.5 help in this situation?? As I believe you are right about unwanted isolation caused by the pressure of the subwoofer. Rag's
This requires either a partition or a pod that is both a) rigid, and b) large enough as to not substantially reduce the coaxial speaker's midbass reach. A soft foam pod isn't the answer.

The air inside the gunnel cavity is elastic. The larger the cavity displacement the more compliant the air mass is which allows for limited dissipation and attenuation of the subwoofer radiation. The longer the distance between the subwoofer and coaxial sharing the same confined air space, the less impact the subwoofer excursion has on the coaxial from the back side. Separation by distance alone is not a solution but may be an improvement over a Sub. and Sat. in close proximity. The best answers are back side acoustic isolation or to place the subwoofer and coaxials in different structures and try to avoid having a subwoofer and coaxial directly across from one another in a narrow walkway.
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This requires either a partition or a pod that is both a) rigid, and b) large enough as to not substantially reduce the coaxial speaker's midbass reach. A soft foam pod isn't the answer.

The air inside the gunnel cavity is elastic. The larger the cavity displacement the more compliant the air mass is which allows for limited dissipation and attenuation of the subwoofer radiation. The longer the distance between the subwoofer and coaxial sharing the same confined air space, the less impact the subwoofer excursion has on the coaxial from the back side. Separation by distance alone is not a solution but may be an improvement over a Sub. and Sat. in close proximity. The best answers are back side acoustic isolation or to place the subwoofer and coaxials in different structures and try to avoid having a subwoofer and coaxial directly across from one another in a narrow walkway.
So if putting an HTX baffle over the 6.5's in this location would not help, where would you recommend installing 2 10" subs?

I have two 6.5's forward, two mid ship, and 2 in the stern, all mounted in the gunwales facing inward. This really doesn't leave much in the way of install options and really only seems to leave the console.

This is similar to my console. I like the idea of the location near that cup holder, because it would be hidden behind the console.


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