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Old 01-10-2017, 06:49 PM   #1
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Looks like I'll be the owner of a Hydra-Sports 2800 Vector WA towards the end of the month. So it's time to layout the electronics. Here's what I got lined up so far:

Garmin Autopilot
2X Garmin 7612xsv
Garmin GXM52
Transducers:
Airmar B175L
Airmar B175H
Garmin GT30

I am an avid bottom fisherman looking to increase my capability from a TM260 and GSD24 from my last boat and seems like the above will be a hell of a setup. Most of the time I'm fishing bottom from 60-200ft for snapper and out to 600ft for golden tiles locally in FL. Bahamas deepdrop from 400-1400ft. Plus, I'd like to get into daytime sword fishing.

So anyone running anything similar or am I off base in what I'm looking to do?

Being the 7612 only has imputs for 2 transducers, I opted for the second xsv so I can run the three. Question, so let's say the left 7612 has both B175 and the right has the GT30, will I only be able to pull up the downvu/sidevu on the right screen or will I be able to do any combination of all three on the left?
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You can split screen the GT30 and a B175.

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Old 01-10-2017, 07:37 PM   #3
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Looks like I'll be the owner of a Hydra-Sports 2800 Vector WA towards the end of the month. So it's time to layout the electronics. Here's what I got lined up so far:

Garmin Autopilot
2X Garmin 7612xsv
Garmin GXM52
Transducers:
Airmar B175L
Airmar B175H
Garmin GT30

I am an avid bottom fisherman looking to increase my capability from a TM260 and GSD24 from my last boat and seems like the above will be a hell of a setup. Most of the time I'm fishing bottom from 60-200ft for snapper and out to 600ft for golden tiles locally in FL. Bahamas deepdrop from 400-1400ft. Plus, I'd like to get into daytime sword fishing.

So anyone running anything similar or am I off base in what I'm looking to do?

Being the 7612 only has imputs for 2 transducers, I opted for the second xsv so I can run the three. Question, so let's say the left 7612 has both B175 and the right has the GT30, will I only be able to pull up the downvu/sidevu on the right screen or will I be able to do any combination of all three on the left?
Go for the B265LH with high speed fairing block. The transducer being mounted slightly below the hull will make all the difference. It really is worth the extra hassle installation work. If on a trailer I'd suggest that it's even worth mods to trailer to accommodate the high speed fairing block.
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You will be able to run the combination , this is what the Garmin network cables allow you to do. I would go with the B175HW for SoFla and the Bahamas trolling/ drifting work.
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You will be able to run the combination , this is what the Garmin network cables allow you to do. I would go with the B175HW for SoFla and the Bahamas trolling/ drifting work.
Afternoon Sir,

After doing a little reading here at work on my lunch break, I think you are right, the B175HW looks like the go to high freq transducer. I thought I had a bookmark for the cone sizes on my phone, but I guess I misplaced it. I've see. Do you have a link for cones sizes at depth I can check out?

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Afternoon Sir,

After doing a little reading here at work on my lunch break, I think you are right, the B175HW looks like the go to high freq transducer. I thought I had a bookmark for the cone sizes on my phone, but I guess I misplaced it. I've see. Do you have a link for cones sizes at depth I can check out?

Thanks,
Sean
I'm looking for the chart for you, in the mean time.
The high is 15-9
The HW is 25 constant.
My bad it's 10-6 as I had recalled. This resurged post was showing bad info.
I still stand by the b175HW paired with the GT series for how you are fishing.

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I'm looking for the chart for you, in the mean time.
The high is 15-9
The HW is 25 constant.
the high is actually 10-6. 15-9 was incorrectly listed by a lot of airmar literature though.

I think the OP would be better off with the b175H than the HW as he is an avid bottom fisherman. As a point of reference, your current 260 has a HF angle of 6°. going to an HW will obviously increase the amount of ground covered but you will absolutely lose definition. HW is really designed for trolling where you're looking for moving fish in the water column, not where you're trying to determine fish & structure on the bottom directly below the boat and trying to set right on top of them.
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I think you should consider a B175M for bottom fishing at those depths and still being good all around. It still has a wide cone angle. A combo of B175H and B175L would be ideal to get you wide cone coverage but still decent bottom detail for bottom fishing.
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http://www.furunousa.com/LearningCen...alculator.aspx

Link to determine depth and cone size.


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Shoeless do you fish out of st Lucie inlet. I see a boat with that name out of Stuart ? I'm looking for almost the same exact set up as you! My real concern is will the 7612xsv read the bottom as good as my gsd 26 hooked to my 8212 on old boat? I only wont two transducers though! one for medium to shallow water and one for waaaay down there!
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He is going with the L for the deep water work. What he was lacking was his water column and that's where the b175hw comes in. The GT30 will give him shallow bottom structure and fish finding.
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Will that set up read as bottom down deep as good as the gsd 26 Brian? Just not sure the sonar in the Xavier models are as good as the box
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keep in mind that your own thoughts were b175L & b175H and you would typically run these together...the L gives a lot of coverage and the H gives you pinpoint detail. when fish are showing on the L but not the H then you know you are 'close' but not 'close enough'. getting two transducers with the same (or very similar) cone angles makes no sense in this application to me (e.g. b175L & b175HW). If you only were to go with one, then the b175M is, quite literally, a compromise of the two, but it sounds like you're willing to install both which will be better than the M
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Will that set up read as bottom down deep as good as the gsd 26 Brian? Just not sure the sonar in the Xavier models are as good as the box
Studies have shown the GSD26 to provide better images.
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How about this?

8212 W/GPS
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Installing that very set up. It would be excluding the Clear Vu Side Vu
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http://www.furunousa.com/LearningCen...alculator.aspx

Link to determine depth and cone size.


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Thank you Sir.

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Shoeless do you fish out of st Lucie inlet. I see a boat with that name out of Stuart ? I'm looking for almost the same exact set up as you! My real concern is will the 7612xsv read the bottom as good as my gsd 26 hooked to my 8212 on old boat? I only wont two transducers though! one for medium to shallow water and one for waaaay down there!
I sure do. I sold my 20ft Century Years ago, but the owner wanted to keep the name. I told him hell if you buy it you can do whatever you want. Plus, the next boat was getting a better graphic. My last boat, Pursuit 2470, I just sold and removed the graphics. Not sure how this setup will compare to a GSD26, I guess it depends what transducer you had.
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keep in mind that your own thoughts were b175L & b175H and you would typically run these together...the L gives a lot of coverage and the H gives you pinpoint detail. when fish are showing on the L but not the H then you know you are 'close' but not 'close enough'. getting two transducers with the same (or very similar) cone angles makes no sense in this application to me (e.g. b175L & b175HW). If you only were to go with one, then the b175M is, quite literally, a compromise of the two, but it sounds like you're willing to install both which will be better than the M
Exactly, I agree with this. Also, the CHIRP images from a L freq ducer are practically the same as a HW. Best to go with L and H.
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Pics please.
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keep in mind that your own thoughts were b175L & b175H and you would typically run these together...the L gives a lot of coverage and the H gives you pinpoint detail. when fish are showing on the L but not the H then you know you are 'close' but not 'close enough'. getting two transducers with the same (or very similar) cone angles makes no sense in this application to me (e.g. b175L & b175HW). If you only were to go with one, then the b175M is, quite literally, a compromise of the two, but it sounds like you're willing to install both which will be better than the M
You make an excellent point in pinpointing the bottom I'm looking to fish in. Great advise here!!!!
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