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Old 03-15-2006, 02:11 PM
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Default Li-on vs. Ni-cad batteries on handheld vhf

Wanting to purchase handheld marine radio as back-up. Any experience would be appreciated.

I'm looking toward the new ICOM M-72. It has the highest waterproof rating and has a Li-on battery rather than a Ni-cad. Been told the Ni-cads don't hold a charge well when not in use. The Li-ons do.

Any feedback on experience with brands and model numbers would be appreciated.

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Old 03-15-2006, 02:25 PM
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Default Re: Li-on vs. Ni-cad batteries on handheld vhf

I always look for a handheld that takes a charge and regular batteries. That way you can keep a fresh pack of AAA or AA batteries on hand just in case. But comparing Li-On to Ni-Cad I would go Li-on in a heart beat.
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Ni-Cad are old technology and are generally crap. Li-Ion is much better, but I too like the idea of having the ability to put in simple AA or AAA batteries.
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Old 03-15-2006, 04:46 PM
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Default Re: Li-on vs. Ni-cad batteries on handheld vhf

Ni-Cad is prone to memory
You really need to wear it all the way down before charging, or you can reduce the battery life.

The Li-Ion has fixed this. There is one other type that is also better than the nicad, but cannot think of it right now.
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Default Re: Li-on vs. Ni-cad batteries on handheld vhf

Li ion: No memory effect, little (relative term here) self-discharge, expensive. single cell = 3V, I think. Typically not available in standard battery packages (i.e. AA, C, D, etc.) Often custom shaped: square, flat, etc.

NiCad: Cheap, memory effect (loses capacity if not fully discharged before recharging), fairly high self-discharge. Single cell is about 1.2V Available in std pkgs

NiMH: cost between the other two, fairly high self disharge rate, no memory. Cell voltage= 1.2V Available in std pkgs


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Any of the 3, in a standard package (say AA, for instance) will have about 3 times the capacity as an alkaline disposable battery.
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Old 03-15-2006, 11:55 PM
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i got the icom m 1v recently. li-ion batt. they are dropping in price. paid 139 at boat show. great little radio. at boat show icom had all their waterproof in a bucket of water........working
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Old 03-16-2006, 12:47 PM
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I just bought the icom M-72 and it is a great radio! I use it for backup and it even receives better than my installed boat radio (I have to get that checked out).

West Marine matches internet prices (shipping included), I think I paid $184.00 give or take a buck or two.

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Old 03-17-2006, 12:08 AM
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Default Re: Li-on vs. Ni-cad batteries on handheld vhf

A handheld unit should be able to use standard store-bought batteries AA or AAA, whatever. I have a pda type handheld and they have no value as a carry with you handheld or makeshift marine unit. I have grown to hate internal and/or proprietary batteries, simply stupid!!

sorry guys thought you were talking about gps, but the same holds even more true for radios, a dead battery when you need the sucker is BAD news, the ability to throw some Duracells in and keep rolling could be priceless.

Yeah li-ion is great for cell phones but they aren't very versatile with regards to battery type.
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guys, thanks. i am definitely going li-on.

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Default Re: Li-on vs. Ni-cad batteries on handheld vhf

whichever way you go, make sure that you have normal alkaline batteries on board and that they will fit in the radio. I don't care if you buy LiON, NImH, NiCad's, the risk in all of them is that when you need to use that radio, the battery will be dead.

If a radio does not accept alkaline batteries, just discard it from the list if the intended use is during an emergency.
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