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Old 04-06-2016, 09:06 PM   #1
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Default Furuno tzt14 vs tzt2 ? Anybody have these units?

So I have narrowed my search down to these 2 units. I am looking for some real world experience with the furuno tzt14 and the tzt2 12" units. Please let me know which one you like better and why. I have heard the tzt2 was not really a upgrade so just trying to figure all this out before buying. Just say I will be putting the dff1 sounder with both units

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I dont have the TZT2 but I have the original TZT on my boat. I installed before the release of the tzt2 but I absolutely love my unit. It is lightning fast, constructed heavily (even with cooling fans), and is a breeze to use. I only have the 9" screen that I use for navigation w/ radar. I love the rotokey along with the touch screen because it makes the unit even easier to use when running. I personally opted to get a gp1870f for a fish fishfinder instead of the ddf sounder box because it gave me a separate screen and a back up gps. It is all the same furuno dsp (digital signal processing) as the bbds1 (which is the same as the ddf1 but with accufish and bottom discrimination. Had the 14 been in the budget, I would have gone with the ddf1.

I have only fiddled with others tzt2's and they are great units too. It doesnt have the rotokey but it has the built in sounder (ddf1 but with accufish, bottom discrimination and their new rezboost). It is bright and lightning fast. It seems very simple to use. Check out the youtube videos at www.navnet.com to see the operating software differences. If you like the hybrid of the regular tzt and want the tzt2 unit, you can add the remote for less than the sounder box to the tzt.

The fish finder is fantastic. I am only in the bay so I mostly fish for striped bass at less than 120' of water. Because of this I just use the 600w single element p66 transducer that gives me a wide 50kHz and a narrow 200kHz. It doesnt miss fish, allows me to differentiate easily between bait and game, clearly marks the layers in the water on the 200kHz side. If you are an offshore guy, they are all 1kw capable with a 1kw transducer.

I love the radar too. I have the 4kw 24" UHD radome. It is heads above my previous Garmin GMR18 4kw unit in clarity of painting targets. If I were buying today, I would likely hold out for their new solid state radar with dopplar processing.

I opted for Furuno when I upgraded because of their quality of product, stable-ness of software, and their long term support. I run for hire trips so I didnt want downtime, the need for constant software updates, and didnt want a small discount on a new unit if it does give me issue in 4 years or so. I dont need things like structure scan because I am mostly interested in marking fish and their sounders are great, even without a CHIRP box and expensive transducers..
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I have a TZT 9 and two TZT 2 14s. The TZT 2 displays are brighter and sharper than the TZT, which is especially noticeable in bright sun. The interface of the TZT 2 is completely redesigned from the TZT. It is "flatter" and more logically constructed to make frequently used functions quicker and easier to access. I would definitely rate the TZT 2 interface as much superior to the TZT. Another difference is that the TZT 2 has very extensive data customization. If you plan to use the unit to show engine data in particular, a TZT 2 gives you much better ability to configure the display with whatever you want to show, change the size of the boxes, and choose between digital and analog data format.

The TZT is a little faster for most menu operations, though not for panning or zooming on the charts, which is about the same on both.

Finally, as you would have seen, the TZT has the "Rotokey" that allows you to use a knob for menu operations as well as the touch screen, while the TZT 2 is touch-only. Sometimes it really helps to have the knob.

It's really a tough call to say that one is a lot better than the other. If you don't already have a DFF1 sounder box, I would say definitely save your money and get the TZT 2 so you can use the built-in sounder, which is just as good if not better than a DFF1. I would also say that if your mounting location is exposed to bright sun, go with the TZT 2 for the better display. Otherwise, I think you should play with the units and see if you have a strong preference for one interface over the other.

The TZT is certainly heavier built in the "old style" Furuno commercial tradition but a TZT 2 is a solid, well-built unit too and not likely to give you problems in that regard.
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I know nothing about the TZT but I have installed the tzt2 12 & 15 on my boat and love them. Fairly simple to install, very user friendly, and seem well built. I like having the built in sounder, GPS and Wi-Fi. The bottom discrimination is nice too. What I like about it the most is the free weather data from max sea that you can down load at the dock over Wi-Fi. It will give you SST, altimetry, plankton, etc. I used SST this past weekend and found it fairly accurate. The tzt2 will also take the new Doppler Radar, not sure on the tzt model.
Another good thing is all Furuno's are shipped with the latest update's so no need to update right away.
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So I have narrowed my search down to these 2 units. I am looking for some real world experience with the furuno tzt14 and the tzt2 12" units. Please let me know which one you like better and why. I have heard the tzt2 was not really a upgrade so just trying to figure all this out before buying. Just say I will be putting the dff1 sounder with both units

Thanks in advance
Is this Craig? Mike F here. I have the TZT2's on my Regulator, installed last year. You are welcome to come check them out. I have no experience with the TZT units.
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I just picked up a TZT2 and am still getting the hang of it. After playing with it a little bit I'd recommend leaving space on your console to add the controller. Both the TXT and TXT2 will take the NXT radar. As others have stated differences are built in sounder with TZT2 and built a little tougher TZT. TZT2 is supposed to have a faster processor.
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Old 04-07-2016, 05:26 AM   #7
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Thanks for all the responses! That is what i am looking for. I am leaning towards the tzt2, the tzt14 is about 1k more and I'm not sure its worth that extra money to me. I my just get the tzt2, my only question now is should I get the dff1 black boat and a chirp ducer with it or just use the built in sounder with a standard b260? My other option is to use the tz2 just for Gps and radar. Then install a furuno 588 next to it for the sounder.

How do you guys like the built in sounder on the tzt2? Also what ducer are you using?
I will be using the unit for a lot of offshore and deep drop...

Mike- thanks for the offer. If I'm over that way I will give you a call. Thanks!
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The internal sounder of the tzt2 is the same as the fcv588. I don't think the ddf1-uhd is necessary. The internal sounder with the 260 would be a great set up.

You can add a fcv588 if you want more screen area.

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Wait for the NXT radar. It's coming very soon. Gil was just on the phone with Furuno earlier in the week talking to them about the release date. They still haven't given one but I've put my money down so I'm early in the line. Price will be around $1900 compared to $1250 or so for the DRS4DL. My buddy is a radar guy and said the tech the NXT is using should be pretty awesome. All of the reviews so far are good but still haven't seen real world video of the unit.
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Got ya on the radar. I may hold off just depends on the release date. I need it by June at the latest. I think I'm gonna go with the tzt2 and purchase a 588 to mount beside the tzt2. I kinda like the idea of having a separate screen for my sounder.....unless I could fit 2 tzt2's on my dash. Does anyone know the actual outter deminsions of the tzt2 12"? I'm having a hard time finding the dimensions
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Well it looks like I have room for two tzt2 12" screens. So now the question is
-go with 2 12" tzt2 screens side by side or put a 588 beside one tzt2.....decisions, decisions....
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I have a Tzt14 and a TZT9 and have been pleased with both, no experience with the TZT2's. One thing to keep in mind with using a stand alone sounder (FCV588); on the TZT units you can scroll back on the sounder screen to mark a target that you have run over, not sure if you can do that on the 588. Sure does make picking up a new bottom spot easier when you can just scroll back on the screen and put a waypoint exactly on the mark.
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Got ya on the radar. I may hold off just depends on the release date. I need it by June at the latest. I think I'm gonna go with the tzt2 and purchase a 588 to mount beside the tzt2. I kinda like the idea of having a separate screen for my sounder.....unless I could fit 2 tzt2's on my dash. Does anyone know the actual outter deminsions of the tzt2 12"? I'm having a hard time finding the dimensions
Here is the template from my install:

Overall is 8.543"tall x 12.795"wide x 4.134"deep
Cutout is 8.071"tall x 12.323"wide x 10"recommended depth for service clearance behind

You can download the installation manual off Furuno Site
http://www.furunousa.com/products/pr...ulti+Touch+MFD
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I went with 2 TZT2's, but there are some missing features vs the TZT, check the responses in this thread:

Furuno TZT14 vs. TZT2
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2, TZT2's give you redundancy with GPS too. And if you know how to work one, you can work the other.
I would get the remote as well. The MCU-004 is the one that will work with two units.
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Got my tzt2 from gil this past weekend. Been playing with it at home. Love it so far. Going in the boat this weekend. Gil gave me a great price and answered all my questions.
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Wait for the NXT radar. It's coming very soon. Gil was just on the phone with Furuno earlier in the week talking to them about the release date. They still haven't given one but I've put my money down so I'm early in the line. Price will be around $1900 compared to $1250 or so for the DRS4DL. My buddy is a radar guy and said the tech the NXT is using should be pretty awesome. All of the reviews so far are good but still haven't seen real world video of the unit.
My thought is the NXT should start to ship by the end of this month..





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My thought is the NXT should start to ship by the end of this month..
I am curious about the NXT and how it compares to the 24" UHD I currently have (which is great). I can't wait to hear reviews. It certainly is an upgrade I would be interested in, especially in the crowded waters of the Chesapeake Bay. Keep us posted!
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I am also waiting for the NXT radar.
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Called Furuno today about my TZ2 rebooting during engine start and the guy I talked to seemed to think late spring early summer. Eitherway it will be worth the wait and give me time to get used to the TZ2 before messing with radar. Really thinking about the control panel after being out there Sunday morning in the waves and chop.
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