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Old 03-08-2014, 04:52 PM
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Just got mine installed and working today. Only had time to play with it for about an hour today. I was very impressed with it. Very easy to use. I got good at basic functions in one hour. Chirp and down view together at the same time is awesome. I have a picture but don't know how to load it. Didn't play with side view much yet. I will play with it more this week and try to post pics.
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To piggy back on OP's thread instead of starting a new one I'd like any info on these you guys can provide as well. I'm starting to consider one as a supplement to my current electronics. I was going to buy a 7212, but Gil (Semperfifishing) recommended one of these.

I see right off the bat that the sounder capability is better, or more options (SideVu/DownVu).

It seems that the 1040xs has more ability out of the box then a 7212, yet the 7212 carries a much larger price point over the 1040xs. Why?

With the 7212 you NEED to buy a sounder module, with the 1040xs it's included. The 1040xs also functions as a plotter, is compatible with radar and the likes.

Is there an advantage to the 7212 over the 1040xs? I'm not seeing it...
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To piggy back on OP's thread instead of starting a new one I'd like any info on these you guys can provide as well. I'm starting to consider one as a supplement to my current electronics. I was going to buy a 7212, but Gil (Semperfifishing) recommended one of these.

I see right off the bat that the sounder capability is better, or more options (SideVu/DownVu).

It seems that the 1040xs has more ability out of the box then a 7212, yet the 7212 carries a much larger price point over the 1040xs. Why?

With the 7212 you NEED to buy a sounder module, with the 1040xs it's included. The 1040xs also functions as a plotter, is compatible with radar and the likes.

Is there an advantage to the 7212 over the 1040xs? I'm not seeing it...

The reason I thought you should also also consider the 1040xs along with the 7212 was based on your fishing depths and the fact you wanted CHIRP.

Your normal depths are 100'...and you stated seldom over 500'.....that puts one into the range of the single band units...especially in shallower water.

The 7212 with a dual band GSD-26 CHIRP and a B75 averages around $5600.
And a great system with expanded sonar capabilities due to the dual band sonar which if used with a dual band transducer (More $) and when needing deep dropping capability.
But you may be mostly using one band of the GSD26 in your average depths....100' or so...so the GSD26 may not be needed.

The 1040xs is $1999. and already has a built in single band CHIRP so adding a B75 transducer you are less than $2700.....and you will have everything you need for fishing with CHIRP within your conditions.
That is a savings of about $2900.or so vs the 7212 system.

You can even add GCV 10 side scan..$500.....and even a 840xs..for a second screen and still be about $900 less less than the 7212 system.

Just one of many options to consider.
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That is the advantage of the new single band and dual band CHIRP systems from Garmin, and Simrad...one can have far greater flexibility and options in choosing a system that fits both their fishing paramaters and their bank account.
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^^^^^ and the sounder is as good as 7212 with GSD26 ? Up to 500'ft only uses 1 band whatever that is and multi band is for deeper waters ? The OP doesnt have a 7212 it sounds like ???? I played with a 1040 with no help at the NE boat show and panning seemed very slow - and this big side bar pops up on right taking up half the screen -seemed annoying , but I had no idea what I was doing and neither did the dealers .....
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It seems that the 1040xs has more ability out of the box then a 7212, yet the 7212 carries a much larger price point over the 1040xs. Why?


Is there an advantage to the 7212 over the 1040xs? I'm not seeing it...
one obvious answer might be that the 7212 is all touch screen. The 1040 is not. That technology alone would add to the starting price, no?
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one obvious answer might be that the 7212 is all touch screen. The 1040 is not. That technology alone would add to the starting price, no?
Still doesn't make sense. Not for the price difference. Even if you compare it to the 4210 at $2,299.99 (gamins website pricing) on top of the 4210 you'd still have to buy a sounder. With the 1040xs you don't. With that the touch screen element is out.

I agree with you, that the 7212 being touch screen and 2" more diagonal width would bring a higher price point, but the 1040xs still has the integrated sounders....

Just trying to rationalize this. Which probably won't happen... lol
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The price difference between 547(chartplotter only) and 547xs (which has the same sounders as 1040xs) is only $40 so Garmin charges very little for integrated sounders.
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Screen shot of 1040xs taken today on a fresh water lake. It is the original bridge across the river before the lake was flooded in the 1930's. Still trying to figure out best way to post pics. Love the unit. Can't wait to get it out in the ocean.
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Still doesn't make sense. Not for the price difference. Even if you compare it to the 4210 at $2,299.99 (gamins website pricing) on top of the 4210 you'd still have to buy a sounder. With the 1040xs you don't. With that the touch screen element is out.

I agree with you, that the 7212 being touch screen and 2" more diagonal width would bring a higher price point, but the 1040xs still has the integrated sounders....

Just trying to rationalize this. Which probably won't happen... lol

I'm wrestling with the same question. I just want the Garmin to act as a chartplotter for now, with a new FCV587. I'd rather have touch, but saving $1K with the ability to have shallow water chirp and the scans is pretty nice. With the 7212 I could add a GSD 24 or 26 later and I definitely want dual band ability. The money gets a little crazy though.

I'm probably going with the 1040xs with a 587 and autopilot. If I change out my transducer, which is a pocket mounted B744, I get more confused on what to do. Probably change my mind again tomorrow.

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I'm wrestling with the same question. I just want the Garmin to act as a chartplotter for now, with a new FCV587. I'd rather have touch, but saving $1K with the ability to have shallow water chirp and the scans is pretty nice. With the 7212 I could add a GSD 24 or 26 later and I definitely want dual band ability. The money gets a little crazy though.

I'm probably going with the 1040xs with a 587 and autopilot. If I change out my transducer, which is a pocket mounted B744, I get more confused on what to do. Probably change my mind again tomorrow.

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something to consider if you want a garmin to just act as a chartplotter would be to get a 740 if you can find one. they are quite cheap and it seemed just as fast as the 7212 to me.

i have a 740 as my chartplotter, a 585 as my sounder and a m260 as my transducer. very happy with the setup and all in i was a little bit over 2k.

these new units seem to have so many capabilities that most will never even use and people just seem to get more and more confused as to what to get.

i subscribe to the keep it simple stupid philosophy because im pretty stupid.
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^^^^^ I played with a 1040 with no help at the NE boat show and panning seemed very slow - and this big side bar pops up on right taking up half the screen -seemed annoying , but I had no idea what I was doing and neither did the dealers .....

I experienced the same. I blame it on Garmin for not getting the dealers the support early enough and for not being at the show themselves. The problem is these are just too new. Garmin tends to be like Apple with the release of products. Don't give much away ahead of time then they pump out the updates.
I did end up buying 2 840xs units after show from one of the dealers attending. The #'s for the units was best that I have found. Pair that with the current Garmin rebate on the vision charts and the 1040/840 is a good unit for the Boston area.
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Thanks for the recommendation too.late. KSS is a good philosophy! Been reading up on the 740 due to your post. A 7" screen might be smaller than I want to go, but the price is right.


I'm anxious to see the 1040 in action amid these reports of it being slow. Nothing on youtube yet.
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Thanks for the recommendation too.late. KSS is a good philosophy! Been reading up on the 740 due to your post. A 7" screen might be smaller than I want to go, but the price is right.


I'm anxious to see the 1040 in action amid these reports of it being slow. Nothing on youtube yet.
no problem. using it solely as a chartplotter its been plenty big for me. i came from a garmin 4212 and dont notice any difference at all.
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