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I have pretty well decided on getting the new Furuno navnet 2 set up probably with the 4kw dome radar and black box fishfinder and WAAS receiver.
I am also planning on the ICOM 602 with Digital brand 529 VW 8' 6db antenna and for style purposes a matching am/fm radio antenna opposite it. Never thought I'd type those last few words.
Biggest decision is transducer.
What to get and where to mount it. I was thinking of the Airmar 260 with the gaudy transom mount.
Would you pay to have this done professionally or do it yourself?
I have a handheld GPS, any reason to consider a stand alone backup like the Garmin 2006?
Any thoughts to add on the above?
Please don't suggest Raymarine or Simrad, I'm going with Furuno.
Can't suggest a transducer but I bet you won't be disappointed with your choice in electronics. I went NavNet on the brand new yacht last fall and probably would not have waited for VX2 even if I had known about it, though I'd like some of the functions they included like DSE/DSC sentence support. I'm really impressed with the planned interoperability between the old NavNet, VX2 and the new MaxSea software (if you believe the boat show stories), so ignore the religious wars
Got the 4KW dome attached to a 1732 head, w/1710C plotter down and 1900C plotter upstairs (both w/320B WAAS receivers, one disabled), ICOM M502 (602 wasn't out yet, 502 is smaller). Driving Robertson/Simrad AP26.
NavNet is really not that hard if you stop and read the stuff on the Furuno site carefully, plus guys like Think Tweiss seem to have an excellent grasp of the complexities of it. I had a "professional" installation done, they did a great job on the physical intallation, mounting, fit and finish, but even though they were a large outfit advertising the in the NMEA's monthly "Marine Electronics" journal they had NO CLUE on how to configure the interconnects between the heads, the RD30's and DSC VHF. I had to have them tear out most of their (non-Ethernet) cabling between the electronics boxes and reconfigure with cabling I specified, which cost me another 5% on top of the job, out of pocket. They did get the autopilot wiring right, but screwed up the sensor programming on the AC20 computer software and I had to redo it.
Now for a word from our sponsor...if you get a wheel and PM me I'll look at your planned design when I have a couple of minutes!
I would go to the worldcat forum to ask what transducer works best, and exactly how and where they install it, as cat sponsons create a lot of turbulence making them lose signal at fast cruise.
I have been toying with the idea of mounting a trull hull style (Airimar 256 1000 watt) on a trim tab actuator behind the transom so that I can lower it from the console to find cleaner water as needed, or raise it to reduce drag and splash. Crazy huh. Better ask the owners to be safe.
Don't let the previous crack about getting a wheel bug you.
Ben, I know that boat very well. First off, awsome choices!!!!!Secondly I would do it myself. You have plenty of room behind the console to do your wiring. The t-top on that boat has huge tubing and it easy to run wires along as you run the radar wire first!!!!! The transducer is the big question. If you buy a tru hull I would have that part done professionally, the TM go ahead and do it. As for the back up.. save your money, gas is getting expensive. Use your hand held and always keep fresh batteries. If you got anymore question please vask away...
As far as the wheel goes, I have had that discussion with Wiley and even if something happened and I could not come to this site again or it died...life would go on. Just like the one this site replaced.
Appreciate all the input.
Shipper..I went to WCC forum and got some good information there as well and of course very cat specific. Just wanted a bigger cross section.
do yourself a favor and get a northstar 952, cost about $1400 new and is the best chartplotter on the market...the nav net plotter is just OK......also, try to get the 1kw ducer or you can upgrade to the bbff3 and get up to a 3 kw ducer ....
bens2 - 3/5/2005 7:33 PM* As far as the wheel goes, I have had that discussion with Wiley and even if something happened and I could not come to this site again or it died...life would go on. Just like the one this site replaced.*** Ben
Spending $5,000 for electronics on a $100k+ boat and too cheap to pay $25 to get advice on what to do next. That's hilarious!
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I'm not sure the $25.00 is a 'cheap' issue but rather a matter of principal.* Sometimes circumstances.* My general thought is if you get a benefit from this site, consider supporting it...no big deal.* I think it wrong to make people feel 'unconfortable', asking questions/using the site, if they chose not to financially support it.* We each give in our own way.* A lot of good information comes from people that are not members; for what ever reason.* In time I would hope they reconsider.* * It is said in this world; 'nothing's free'...THT just might be the exception for some.* *
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bens2 - 3/5/2005 7:33 PM* As far as the wheel goes, I have had that discussion with Wiley and even if something happened and I could not come to this site again or it died...life would go on. Just like the one this site replaced.*** Ben
Spending $5,000 for electronics on a $100k+ boat and too cheap to pay $25 to get advice on what to do next. That's hilarious!
tarnold,
Actually, I've pretty much decided in my own mind what I'm going to do, but sometimes bouncing ideas off of others will help you realize something you hadn't thought of.
As far as the wheel thing goes that many here are so fond of, well, I do not want to support internet pornography and that is exactly what is present in the sandbar section of this website. It is true that I do not have to go there if I purchased a wheel, but my membership money would still support that.
The value of any gathering of people comes not so much from their money, but their knowledge and willingness to share it. If you have neither, then why did you bother to respond to this post.
I think this is a great boating website and that is all I believe it should be. I will still answer questions for others if I can provide them with fact.
As someone already touched on, it is the principal.
I have pretty well decided on getting the new Furuno navnet 2 set up probably with the 4kw dome radar and black box fishfinder and WAAS receiver.
I am also planning on the ICOM 602 with Digital brand 529 VW 8' 6db antenna and for style purposes a matching am/fm radio antenna opposite it. Never thought I'd type those last few words.
Biggest decision is transducer.
What to get and where to mount it. I was thinking of the Airmar 260 with the gaudy transom mount.
Would you pay to have this done professionally or do it yourself?
I have a handheld GPS, any reason to consider a stand alone backup like the Garmin 2006?
Any thoughts to add on the above?
Please don't suggest Raymarine or Simrad, I'm going with Furuno.
Ben
That all looks great so far but you cannot hang a 260 off the transom it's a 256.... (still a 1000 watt ducer)
The shoot thru on the world cat has proven to be problematic ...just ask Harry .....
and a thruhull most likely will cause cavation .......
Who says you can't hang an M260 off the transom? That is exactly what I am planning on doing...converting my M260 to a TM260 (I realize I will not get the temp that is part of the TM260). Am I missing some important piece of info? The manual says TM256/TM260. Here's a link to the manual: http://www.raymarine.com/raymarine/S...er_install.pdf
bens2 - 3/5/2005 7:33 PM* As far as the wheel goes, I have had that discussion with Wiley and even if something happened and I could not come to this site again or it died...life would go on. Just like the one this site replaced.*** Ben
Spending $5,000 for electronics on a $100k+ boat and too cheap to pay $25 to get advice on what to do next. That's hilarious!
tarnold, Actually, I've pretty much decided in my own mind what I'm going to do, but sometimes bouncing ideas off of others will help you realize something you hadn't thought of. As far as the wheel thing goes that many here are so fond of, well, I do not want to support internet pornography and that is exactly what is present in the sandbar section of this website. It is true that I do not have to go there if I purchased a wheel, but my membership money would still support that. The value of any gathering of people comes not so much from their money, but their knowledge and willingness to share it. If you have neither, then why did you bother to respond to this post. I think this is a great boating website and that is all I believe it should be. I will still answer questions for others if I can provide them with fact. As someone already touched on, it is the principal. Ben
Ben, I totally agree with you. I emailed my opinion of the "porn" section to Wiley many months ago.
I have a Navnet 1733C (4 kw radar w/ radome, gps, black box sounder), a Furuno RD30 and GP32, a Garmin 2006C, a Simrad AP16 autopilot, Icom 502A w/ remote Command Mic, and a Standard Horizon Intrepid.
I did the mounting and pulled the wiring on everything except the autopilot. I had my installer*do the autopilot and do the power and NMEA connections. I use the RD30 and GP32 to get data off my display. My Garmin feeds the autopilot and the Icom. The Navnet feeds the Icom. I think*that unless you want a built in hailer you should consider the Icom 502 instead of the 602.*I would*check with Worldcat and Furuno on transducer recommendations. Furuno has excellent customer service.***
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As far as the Airmar 260 ducer, which one you choose is up to you. The best advice is call the manufacturer and do what they say. They have way more info than anyone here. I called Reg, their advice was worth many $'s. I installed an Airmar B260, and it is simply amazing, can't go wrong. If a block is used, take it to a pro and have it done right. I chose a Garmin 76C as a back-up, just because when i fish with someone else i know i have the #'s i need for fishing spots or to get home. OK, I was not going to say it, but i'm going to anyway. You have given and recieved almost 400 post's worth of info, go ahead and spend the $25. I going to buy another wheel just because i have recieved way more than $25 worth of help, and you know you have also.
sblunden - 3/5/2005 4:50 PM
Now for a word from our sponsor...if you get a wheel and PM me I'll look at your planned design when I have a couple of minutes!
Sorry...didn't intend to start a flame war. It's a whole lot easier to have a frank and honest discussion on the internet via PM's than posts, which tend to provoke very subjective and defensive responses, and if you know me (which you don't) I have lots of strong feelings about things. That's why I suggested you get a wheel, Ben, not to support Wiley's operation per se. It's just about convenience. Yeesh.
I am also buying a new boat and am going with Navnet for my radar and GPS.* But I am going with the Furuno 582L for the fishfinder.* My reasoning is:[*]I want some redundancy.*[*]the 582L has knobs as opposed to multi-layered buttons.* So if I want to crank up the gain, I can do it in much faster[*]this seems to the professional fishermen's finder of choice for the reason I stated above[/list]
That is my reasoning, but I am not saying I am right.* What is yours for the complete unit?
Electronics for new boat..questions 
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