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Old 04-29-2012, 08:02 PM
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Default Garmin autoguidance ?

know the ghp 10 works real good with garmin pump but does the ghp 12 work just as good with 3rd party pump when autoguidance is activated i know what garmin says about it i'm just wondering if anyone has personally used this setup on power boats if so how good does it work?
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I have been told that due to a lawsuit about the auto guidance, new garmins disable the autopilot when auto guidance is being used. Not sure if it's true or not. I couldn't find any evidence of it when googling, but I didn't try that hard.
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the autoguidance function works with the ghp 10, ghp 12 and ghp 10v. it doesnt matter if you are using a garmin linear drive or 3rd party drive with the ghp12.
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the autoguidance used to be better when it first came out. back then the autopilot would not follow. now that the autopilot will they take you in the deepest possible water it can find which isnt necesarily the most direct route. it is a nice feature to have if you are in a new spot in the islands with heads around but for the most part i wont rely on it.
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the autoguidance used to be better when it first came out. back then the autopilot would not follow. now that the autopilot will they take you in the deepest possible water it can find which isn't necessarily the most direct route. it is a nice feature to have if you are in a new spot in the islands with heads around but for the most part i wont rely on it.
Yeah, and the minimum safe depth you can choose is 6 feet. Where I fish, you literally have to go offshore to find long stretches of water deeper than 6 feet and 90% of our inshore waters where I fish show as 5.9 feet deep or shallower, so I rarely have ever had the opportunity to use it!

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Huh?? You guys are all screwed up here, I just used Auto-guidance extensively yesterday afternoon, in the Great South Bay on LI, the entire bay is 2' to 6' deep MAX for the most part.

1. I have not herd of any lawsuit regarding the Auto-guidance. And I have the latest software and it is not disabled.

2. The new version of software (on the 7215 anyway) has some great new Auto-Guidance features in it, and it works MUCH better than it used to. By that I mean, it used to not work in the Great South Bay for the most part, it was too shallow and it would always says "Can't Auto-guide from current location" (or something like that. Cause it could not find deep enough water regardless of what you set the min water depth to.

Now, I can set the water depth to 3' and the shore setting to "NEAR" (nearest to shore), and the Auto-guidance plots a course right along (just outside) the 3' contour line, exactly where I would drive the boat if I was doing it myself. It rarely fails making a plot now, which is awesome. Of course now you really need to check the course because it can go across some area's you probably don't want to. If I up the "Distance from shore" setting to NORMAL, it will then take the boat a bit further out from shore away from land which usually means deeper water as well. So now I leave it set like that.

3. There is NO 6' limitation. I put mine at 3' yesterday. I'm not sure what the minimum is as I didn't try it below that. But it used to be 3'.

4. Miss trial. A really nice feature I have found in the newest software is: the custom depth contour shading setting, in conjunction with the Spot Depth Highlight setting (forget the real name for this setting?). I now set the Depth Contour setting to 3.5' Then I set the spot depth highlight setting to 3.0'. So now my chart gets shaded blue anywhere the water depth is 3.5' or less in the bay. And, any soundings which are 3.0' or less get highlighted as bright RED. So I know I can go anywhere the chart is white, and also can see the extra shallow area's which are marked with RED soundings. LOVE that feature.

I'll take a screen-shot of what it looks like later and post it.
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lot of great responses but still would like to know if anyone has used or installed this setup(garmin ghp 12 with 3rd party pump)if so does it perform just as well as the ghp 10 when auto guidance feature is on
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lot of great responses but still would like to know if anyone has used or installed this setup(garmin ghp 12 with 3rd party pump)if so does it perform just as well as the ghp 10 when auto guidance feature is on
i thought that was what you were asking. lol
the answer to that is NO. a garmin pilot will not work with any pump but a garmin pump
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lot of great responses but still would like to know if anyone has used or installed this setup(garmin ghp 12 with 3rd party pump)if so does it perform just as well as the ghp 10 when auto guidance feature is on
I've been on a couple of boats with ghp12 and third party drives installed and the Ghp12 performed just as great as the ghp 10 when using the auto guidance. There is even some benefit using the ghp 12 with the Garmin pump and a rru on bigger boats without outboarders over using the ghp10 with pump.....you'll have a rudder indicator and the hydraulic system doesn't have to be 100 percent bleeded.....and off course you are not limited to the Garmin drives.
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There is a whole page on autoguideance on the Garmin website.

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When you click "Learn More" on that page, you simply go to the G2 Vision info page. ????

They (Garmin) recently changed their webiste, and it is TERRIBLE!! If I worked at Garmin, I would tell them immediately to go back to what it was. It's crazy how convoluted their website is right now.
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Correct. I cant navigate their website anymore.

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I've been on a couple of boats with ghp12 and third party drives installed and the Ghp12 performed just as great as the ghp 10 when using the auto guidance. There is even some benefit using the ghp 12 with the Garmin pump and a rru on bigger boats without outboarders over using the ghp10 with pump.....you'll have a rudder indicator and the hydraulic system doesn't have to be 100 percent bleeded.....and off course you are not limited to the Garmin drives.
what kind of third party drives are you refering to? >edit< nevermind, guess i wasn't paying attention last year, when they finally came up with software that did away with the dumbassed pump/drive encoder

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what kind of third party drives are you refering to? >edit< nevermind, guess i wasn't paying attention last year, when they finally came up with software that did away with the dumbassed pump/drive encoder
I've seen so many drives work just perfectly.
I installed the GHP 12 with Simrad, robinson, raymarine, Lewmar, jefa, Octopus, Vetus, Hypro and lecomble&schmidt pumps and drives. You can even add the shadow drive with hydraulical Steered boats....
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gerg,
Here is what I was refering to on the Auto Guidance improvements.... I used ot not be able to do this in such shallow water area with no real "chart marked channels", now I can. I was out last night, and just did a quick test to show it...

You can also see the RED soundings which are under my preset level of 4.0'....
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