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Old 02-08-2011, 12:30 PM
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I'm hearing some boats being prepped for the April/May boat shows may have something new from Garmin on them. Nothing more specific than that. Anyone know more than this ??
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They have refreshed most of their line in the last year or so, so new plotters, vhf's or radars aren't likely.

Notable exception is sonar.

Could also be night vision of some kind.

Or nothing at all. Wait and see I guess.

When birdman sobers up from his trip to dallas he might have a few secrets to share from his super stealthy deep cover operators.
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At the A/C boat show, Garmin had a setup. Nothing newer than the 6k/7k screens and the HD Radars. Of course their might be something that they are keeping secret until it's ready for release, however this could be a bad marketing move, as people may consider another brand over a new product that is being shipping in the next 2 months.
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Rumor has it, it will be a new fishfinder using the Chirp (fast pulse) technology. I know the Garmin version of the Airmar B260, M260 and TM260 all have the capability for it.

All electronics releases are done either at Ft. Lauderdale or Miami, so I wouldn't expect to see ti at AC, NY or any of the other pre-Miami shows.
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I'm also thinking the FF/sonar arena is the best place for Garmin to inovate. They hold their own in the GPS and Radar markets. Not saying they are the best, just saying it's the sonar area where they have the most to gain. I almost left room for a Furuno FF on my console, but decided to get the largest Garmin MDF that would fit, use the Garmin sonar for one season, and then make the call. Looks like I may be able to upgrade and not need a separate head unit. Fingers crossed.
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Cross your fingers any new ff technology will be compatible with the 4xxx/5xxx series. We've seen it with the newest HD radar units - the most advanced features will only work with the 6xxx/7xxx head units.

There may not be enough horsepower in the older mfd's to provide the graphics the newer tech would require.

My pessimistic prediction would be they EOL the 4xxx/5xxx uniits at the same time they release the new GSD300 and that it will only provide it's full potential on the newest mfd's (6xxx/7xxx/7xx).

But who knows. It's just a theory.
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Based only on recent US Patent Office disclosures, its possible that Garmin will at last field a public version of the US Navy's previously highly classified technology for Submarine Navigation know as Deep Buoy, a ULF datapulse from SOSUS receivers strategically located on the sea bottom all over the world, yielding sub-meter accuracy. The real break-thru has been made possible by recent advances in memory technology; positioning data is processor intensive and requires access to a three-dimensional database with corrections for undersea currents, salinity and temperature fluctuations.

The biggest road block to extended recreational use is the need for water-cooling around the CPU/GPU independent of engine heat exchangers.
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At least that won't be effected by 4G phone service.
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My pessimistic prediction would be they EOL the 4xxx/5xxx uniits at the same time they release the new GSD300 and that it will only provide it's full potential on the newest mfd's (6xxx/7xxx/7xx).

But who knows. It's just a theory.
I don't thiink they will EOL the 4xxx/5xxx anytime soon. It is my understanding (from a reliable source) that the 4/5 series currently outsell the 6/7 series by almost 3:1 (presumably as a result of pricing), so unless Garmin comes out with a 6212 package (Chartplotter/FF/XM) for $3000 (it now costs $4,500 for that), it will be a while before 6212 replaces the current big seller, the 4212 bundle that retails for $2,800.
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What we'll probably see is a price drop in the 6000 series to start it will replace the 4000 .... the 5000 will stay as is and will support any new GDS that may come as will the 4000.
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What we'll probably see is a price drop in the 6000 series to start it will replace the 4000 .... the 5000 will stay as is and will support any new GDS that may come as will the 4000.
I would suspect they would EOL the 4000 and 5000 together, if this is their plan, but they would need to bring down the price point like mentioned earlier or they will loose a very large market segment.
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I know they released the new 4kw open arrays and they released the new wireless micrphone units that work with their VHF units. So, I am sure you will see a 6000/7000 system, with AIS600, with the VHF units, with their wireless handheld mic, plus the new radar xHD units. Everyone is guessing maybe a new FishFinder...but no official word yet.
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You mean Side Scan?

They would be only ones without it...
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Whatever it is, by the time you get it home from the showroom they will have released 2 updates....
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Cross your fingers any new ff technology will be compatible with the 4xxx/5xxx series. We've seen it with the newest HD radar units - the most advanced features will only work with the 6xxx/7xxx head units.

There may not be enough horsepower in the older mfd's to provide the graphics the newer tech would require.

My pessimistic prediction would be they EOL the 4xxx/5xxx uniits at the same time they release the new GSD300 and that it will only provide it's full potential on the newest mfd's (6xxx/7xxx/7xx).

But who knows. It's just a theory.
What HD features are not compatible with the 52xx series ? Link ?
I'm not finding much.
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What HD features are not compatible with the 52xx series ? Link ?
I'm not finding much.

Color radar and dual range are the two I'm thinking of.
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Color radar and dual range are the two I'm thinking of.
I am pretty sure the dual range works with both - I have a 604XHD and it works on my 4212, so I would assume it works on the 5xxx?; the color does not (target signal strength, like a fishfinder), but would be nice.
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