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Old 09-08-2010, 01:49 PM
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Default Garmin 5212 Touchscreen -- Screen Freezes up when wet

Has anyone experienced a Garmin 5212 freezing when it gets wet. Mine becomes totally inactive and the only way to get it to work is to turn it completely off, dry well, let it sit, then turn it back on.
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LOL!! Very funny. After you respond to yourself on another thread using a different moniker, you then start a new thread with the same content but now with a "wet" blame.

Funny stuff. Next time try changing your IP address before posting under a different name.

You know, it would be much easier to market your own product, than to try and sabotage other brands. Try making a product that WORKS and competes with Garmin, and you won't have to waste your time like this.







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Birdman -- I'm not sure what you're all about. Did you ever consider that I started a new thread, then later found the semi-related thread. I'm not sabotaging anything. I've always liked Garmin electronics and that is the only brand I intend to continue buying. In fact, I recently also bought a 4208, HD radar and their auto pilot. Makes no sense to jump to the ridiculous conclusions you are leaping to. Did you ever consider that I have a legit issue with the 5212 that I have been researching to see if others had similar issues. I thought that was part of the purpose of a forum.
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Did you ever consider that I have a legit issue with the 5212
After reading your 2 posts, NO!!
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Pay not mind to Birdy, He is our resident cheer-girl for Garmin.

Basically, he'll tell you that a fault of Garmin's is really your fault.

If you find a legitimate fault, he'll try to hijack/sidetrack the thread so that it doesn't gain traction.

The more and more you read Birdy's posts in Garmin threads, the more you'll learn that one of two things (if not both) are likely. a) He works for Garmin b) He hopes that if he cheer-girls for Garmin they'll make him a special tester (read: get free stuff).

So, again, pay no mind.
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LOL!! Don't work for Garmin. Don't even work in anything remotely close to being in the Marine bidness, but nice try.

Garmin will never give me anything for free. I'm 100% they don't know I even exist except for the 50 or so complaint emails I've sent them over the last 3 years. but if you know of a way of getting a 7215 for free or cheap, certainly send it my way cause I want to upgrade from my 5215!!

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oh, and Hansen. Pay no nevermid to Pete. I'm convinced he doesn't read english because when he first bought his plotter, he complained that it had no features, nothing worked. Each and every complaint was then followed by appologies after he found the option in the menu's after we had to hand feed him step by step instructions. The rest of us were able to figure all this out with the manual.




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oh, and Hansen. Pay no nevermid to Pete. I'm convinced he doesn't read english because when he first bought his plotter, he complained that it had no features, nothing worked. Each and every complaint was then followed by appologies after he found the option in the menu's after we had to hand feed him step by step instructions. The rest of us were able to figure all this out with the manual.




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Guffaw! Really now, Birdy -- you're turning into a tool.
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P.S. Should we do a search and show how many times you've asked for a free something from Garmin. Tool.
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PS- A "tool" is a very nice compliment, thanks. Tools are what differs mankind from the rest of animal species. With out them, we would still be roaming around wrapped in a palm leave in the woods.

If your going to throw around insults, use something that makes sense.

Some of Petes threads:
http://www.thehulltruth.com/marine-e...rking-but.html

http://www.thehulltruth.com/marine-e...-homeport.html

http://www.thehulltruth.com/marine-e...min-guide.html

http://www.thehulltruth.com/marine-e...-question.html

http://www.thehulltruth.com/marine-e...-4210-now.html


Seeing a pattern?
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PS- A "tool" is a very nice compliment, thanks. Tools are what differs mankind from the rest of animal species. With out them, we would still be roaming around wrapped in a palm leave in the woods.

If your going to throw around insults, use something that makes sense.

Some of Petes threads:
http://www.thehulltruth.com/marine-e...rking-but.html

http://www.thehulltruth.com/marine-e...-homeport.html

http://www.thehulltruth.com/marine-e...min-guide.html

http://www.thehulltruth.com/marine-e...-question.html

http://www.thehulltruth.com/marine-e...-4210-now.html


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Hey, if I worked for Garmin like you do, I wouldn't have to ask so many questions here... I could ask my assistant to find out.

P.S. You do know that those links didn't prove your statement right? Aside from HomePort, which I admit I was excited to use it and didn't read the instructions well... Let me know how that changes the fact that as of right now, it looks like I'll be going on my THIRD REPLACEMENT UNIT!
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I've had a similar problem with my handheld Oregon 300. The problems comes from water intrusion between the screen and housing shorting some electrodes. Specified to IPx7, which means submersible to 1m for 30 min, but don't withstand a normal rain shower.
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I have a 5212 also, never caused me any problems and it does get wet. I did put a plastic clear screen saver thing on top the screen. I got it at ebay. Its a little harder to press the screen buttons.

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I have had the same problem with my 5212. When it gets VERY wet it will not work at all. The cursor will just jump around the screen. Yes, I am using it right. Yes, I like the product. Yes, it does suffer from some problems. If I could do it all over again.... I would buy the same unit with real buttons. I guess most people here don't use them in adverse (wet) conditions. The kind of conditions you might find on an offshore fishing machine. I can tell you of a few more issues this machine has, but I don't want to be assaulted by the Garmin police.

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seasickness -- great idea. I'll get a clear screen cover for mine too.

native1 -- I'd like to keep this on topic and consider whatever other issues you have with the 5212 to be on topic, so please post them. Or, send me a PM. The more we all know about this equipment, the better.

I just had the electronics dealer pull mine from the boat to send back to Garmin. I'll post when I get it back or hear back. My last two trips from Bimini to Lighthouse Point, FL had rain & storms and some sea spray. The unit didn't get very wet, but did have moisture on the screen. I'm glad I had installed a 4208 with "real buttons" as native1 refers to them as my 2nd display. The problem with the 5212 getting wet and freezing is that the whole network needs to be shut down, leaving me without radar or auto-pilot while the system is off and restarting. I have to say though, when the system works, I really like the touchscreen and would likely duplicate the same set-up even knowing what I now know. If I could only have one plotter on the boat, I would opt for one with buttons for the added assurance of reliability.
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Water has no affects on the outside of the display. I can operate mine and do all the time with it soaking, dripping wet including with wet gloves on with bait and chum on them. That is not a problem.

Getting water INSIDE the unit as "abbor" stated is an entirely different story. I spray mine off with a hose every time I'm washing down my helm area, with it on, and never have any issues or adverse affects from the water when wet or after it dries. when I get bback from fishing, I ussually have all kinds of crap (blood, guts, biat, chum...) all over it from my hands...
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Hey, if I worked for Garmin like you do, I wouldn't have to ask so many questions here... I could ask my assistant to find out.
My assistant wouldn't know "who" Garmin is. She might think it's somebodies given name being she is a Euro.
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Birdman - thanks for a legit reply to the topic... this time. It will be interesting to see what Garmin says. I would love it if mine worked like yours. At first, I thought the problem stemmed from an info overload issue (maxing out system memory) on the network (tracks full, radar, sonar, 2nd plotter, auto pilot, AIS/VHF all talking to each other on the network). However, it has been too coincidental that it only happens in adverse weather. It would be nice if they send me a new unit (not someone else's refurb) since mine is only 5 months old. We'll see.
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I guess a few units have manufacturing defects allowing water to enter in the interface between screen and housing. I would recommend making a warranty claim immediately when experiencing such problems.
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Birdman,

I don't understand your criticism of other THT members concerns about equipment problems or if they are looking for assistance in learning their product. Your comments do not add any value to these discussions. They diminish the benefit of these discussions to other users.

Good luck with your boat. I hope you never have any problems that may jeopardize the safety of you or anyone aboard your boat. Have fun trying to get some assistance or advice.
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