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Old 07-26-2010, 12:59 PM   #21
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If your motors are 08 or newer then you will need the 88134 and you wont need any other adaptors
If you want to keep the analog gauges a connector swap or a custom adapter cable is needed to connect 88134 to 2008 and newer engines.

I connected 88134 to a 2010 DF175 last week and made a custom adapter with two male Sumitomo HM 4 pins connectors to adapt 88134 to the SDS port at the engine.
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Old 07-26-2010, 04:54 PM   #22
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If you want to keep the analog gauges a connector swap or a custom adapter cable is needed to connect 88134 to 2008 and newer engines.

I connected 88134 to a 2010 DF175 last week and made a custom adapter with two male Sumitomo HM 4 pins connectors to adapt 88134 to the SDS port at the engine.
Oh I was under the impression that Suzuki in the US has made the cable to go straight to the engine SDS port without the need for any other adaptors.
http://store.brownspoint.com/detail....id=990C0-88134
This cable looks like it has the fitting to go straight to the SDS port on the 2008 and newer engine.
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Old 07-27-2010, 12:27 AM   #23
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I bought 88134 from Brownspoint last week, and the connector was still wrong.

A new cable will come out in a few months time with the correct connector according to what I've heard.
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I bought 88134 from Brownspoint last week, and the connector was still wrong.

A new cable will come out in a few months time with the correct connector according to what I've heard.

WTF are they doing?
I didn't realise they still have it WRONG.
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Old 07-30-2010, 09:17 AM   #25
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Doesn't this adapter do what you guy's do with the "Eastern Beaver" plugs?

http://store.brownspoint.com/detail....id=990C0-88135

And thanks for the very usefull info already given in this topic.
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Old 07-30-2010, 11:52 AM   #26
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I would have expected this adapter (88135) should do the conversion, but according to information I found at an Australian forum the pinning is wrong.
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Old 07-30-2010, 12:05 PM   #27
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I managed to find the post at the Australian forum

http://www.polyboatowners.com/2010/v...5&postcount=18

Here is the text regarding the 88135 adapter from this post:

then found out I could get a male/male cable to allow me to separately connect the digital engine interface down at the motor on the grey plug and restore the analog guage. This sounded exactly like what I wanted so I ordered the part from Browns Point Marine again. This part was 990C0-88135 SIMS Adapter to SDS.

Unbelievably the part arrived in the mail less than a week later. I set about hooking it all up to find that the 990C0-88135 SIMS Adapter to SDS had the correct plugs, but the wiring was not to the correct pins in those plugs as when I connected it all up it didn't work at all. This was very disheartening as I'd spent a few hundred dollars by this point and still didn't have what I wanted.

Finally I got a multi-meter and traced the pin positions on the original black analog cable from motor to console to figure out what wire goes to what position, then using an 8/0 fish hook I managed to carefully extract the pins from the plug housing one end of the 990C0-88135 SIMS Adapter to SDS cable and re-map them to the correct positions. This was a non-trivial exercise but I FINALLY have exactly what I set out to do. My NMEA 2000 display on the HDS7 has all my engine instrumentation AND my analog guage is also fully functional.
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Old 07-30-2010, 06:05 PM   #28
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As I said that I did not use any adapters I took the old round plug off the older Suzuki Engine Interface cable that was on my 2006 motor and I only used the male plug from eastern beaver straight to the grey Suzuki engine plug as in my photos.
I did this yesterday for the local Suzuki dealer that could not work it out so they called me for help and it worked for them.
So I cant say if any adapters work as I found no need to use them.
My first photo on page 1 of this thread shows what I did and I even put up the wiring sequence that is done with out any adapters.

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I purchased the interface (990C0-88134) and the plugset (4P090WP-HM)
I received the interface already but the plugset is only just shipped.

But I couldn't wait and connected the interface already to the analog gauge port on the engine (DF90A 2010).
But my Lowrance LCX27c doesn't see the interface in his NMEA2000 bus-setup.
If I connect a EP65 to the same "T" in the network it is detected, but the 88134 isn't.

My question for now, are your Lowrances (or other devices) detecting the interface if it's not connected to an engine?

(the owners manual of my engine specifies that the SMIS interface should be connected to the SDS port)
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|The interface has to be connected to the engine and the ignition has to be switched on for the engine interface to be detected.
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|The interface has to be connected to the engine and the ignition has to be switched on for the engine interface to be detected.
Ok, to early to panic then.
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Old 08-16-2010, 03:14 AM   #32
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For those who havent seen the other post concerning the accuracy of the fuel flow data from the Suzuki engine interface and reading same on the Lowrance head units, it worth being aware that you may well have problems unless you have the latest software/firmware installed on the Suzuki engine interface cable (yep thats right, the interface cable has software installed on it!).

We found out about this after many frustrating hours of problem solving where nothing we did sorted the problem of wildly inaccurate fuel flow data until finally someone got onto the phone to Lowrance USA from here in Australia and eventually got someone who knew about these Suzuki NMEA 2000 issues. They sent us an update file via email for the interface. Its simple to install and the results so far have sorted the issues we were having. Finally!!

You can check the version your cable has on it and do the upgrade as follows:

To update NMEA 2000 devices (i.e. Suzuki Engine Interface) with HDS.

First check to see what is installed on the Suzuki interface, to do this you need to go to the configure screen, to get there is menu, menu, network, highlight Device List and hit enter, TURN ON ENGINE IGNITION, highlight Suzuki engine interface and hit configure. You can then see the list that shows the software version.

The latest version (that we are aware of as at August 2010) is version 2.3.0 RR30D. You can get this from Lowrance and possibly Suzuki as well. Or PM me and I'll send you a copy.

If you have an older version and have issues selecting your engine model/year or with fuel flow accuracy, this update definitely helped us with solving those sorts of issues.

Copy the 2.30 update file to a blank SD card and put it in your HDS and then:

NOTE: It is better to reprogram NMEA 2000 devices with the engine running to ensure adequate bus voltage, but if you battery is fully charged it can be done without the engine running.

• Put the needed update file on an SD card (Suzuki_230.UPD.luf)
• TURN ON ENGINE IGNITION
• Put the card in the card slot of the head unit and and remove all other cards.
• press PAGES scroll around to the FILES menue, open FILES menue,
• Open Mem Card 1 or 2 when entered will have the update Suzuki_230.UPD.luf highlight it and press UPGRADE at the bottom of the screen.
• Let it run through the sequences and prompts
• Go to the configure screen, to get there is menu, menu, network, highlight Device List and hit enter, TURN ON ENGINE IGNITION, highlight Suzuki engine interface and hit configure, check Software version, it should be 2.3.0 RR30D.
• Continue and configure the engine interface
• Don’t forget to configure you fuel management.

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Old 08-17-2010, 01:16 AM   #33
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I have sent you a p.m I have the 2x 4'' gauges how would i update to the latest interface cable version my fuel calculations are so far out
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You need a Lowrance head unit to be able to update
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Old 08-18-2010, 09:28 AM   #35
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Received my Eastern Beaver plug.
And it works now.

Only thing, on my SDS-port I don't gave a grey/red cable.
Instead it's a Black/green cable.

Thanks everybody for this wonderfull topic.
(seems I've the right software version)
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Old 08-18-2010, 05:48 PM   #36
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So really I would have been better of buying a lowrance head unit than the suzuki 4''management gauges .as now i cannot download any latest software or fix any problems .
I find it hard to believe that the S.M.I.S fuel management can be so in- accurate especially when plugged directly into the E.C.U. ... That is the reason i purchased the 2x gauges and the whole S.M.I.S AND NMEA system
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Borrow a Lowrance head unit from a friend or dealer to download the software.

Adding a HDS-5 to your system to display engine data, and to have the download capability, is a good idea, much easier to read than the SMIS gauges.
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Hi Ozmako

The reason for the inaccuracy is something to the effect that Suzuki changed the data output from its engines and Lowrance, who were making the interfaces at the time, weren't aware, therefore incorrect data being shown on the gaugues.

Suzuki have, I am told, now taken over manufacture of the interfaces so should be OK from here on in.

I'm not sure whether the latest sw versuion we have been given was built by Suzuki or Lowrance, but in any case we got it from Lowrance and it does seem to sort out the issues people have had for some time. The problem you have is getting that update onto your interface cables. If you have a Lowrance head unit, it literally takes 1 minute to do it.

Have you got a local Lowrance distributor in your area? I know that Karratha in WA is very remote, so probably not, but if anyone in your area has a Lowrance LMS or HDS then it wouldnt take much to quickly rig up to 12v in your boat and do the upgrade. Bit of a pain but should be a once-only thing.

I have e-mailed you the interface upgrade file anyway - hope you can find a way to sort out the update process.

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Old 08-19-2010, 04:10 AM   #39
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The interface is still manufactured by Lowrance, but Suzuki have taken over the distribution.
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Old 08-22-2010, 08:26 AM   #40
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I got confused reading all the posts I'm not quite sure what cables to purchase.

I have a 2009 Suzuki DF115 with a week old HDS 5

I would like to keep my analog Suzuki tachometer with the warning lights ect...

is 88134 http://store.brownspoint.com/detail....id=990C0-88134 and 88135 http://store.brownspoint.com/detail....id=990C0-88135 the only cables I need to plug my engine into my HDS-5 and be able to keep my analog tachometer.

I have a 19' aluminum boat.
will 88134 plug in the back of my network port on my HDS-5 or do I need some sort of adapter?

is http://store.brownspoint.com/detail....id=990C0-88107 this extension cable the one I need to plug into the back of my HDS-5?

basically I need a list so I do it right the first time. It sounds like every member here has a whole lot more experience with this sort of thing than me.. haha
thanks guys for your help.

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