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Structure Scan LSS-1 mounting dilemma.. Glacier Bay Cat. Lots of pics. Need advice.
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According to my contact in engineering the beam/cone emitted by sidescan (if you want to call it that) is only 1.3 degrees +/- wide, verry narrow.
The latest update addresses the transducer. You don't have to "swap" ends anymore. The transduccer with the cable toward the transom is now default, no setting adjustment required.
I run a 2260,
thinking outside the box, why not mount in on something along the line of a trailer jack, that you could raise and lower. That would get it as far away from each engine as possible, it could be lowered to what ever depth you would want.
With Structure Scan, closest and more dense structure will show up whiter and brighter. If there is any question whither the transducer and head unit are in sync, (right is right, left is left) drive your boat paralleling a shoreline, rock bluff, etc. Whichever side is facing shore should give the strongest (white/bright) returns.
Personally, I'd mount it directly to the bottom of the hull and modify the bunk on the trailer. This is an acceptable mounting position for offshore boats...its is not recommended for areas with lots of obstructions.
Here is a picture that might help you. (2) ducers. (1) left and (1) right!!
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That brings up a question though. If I was to consider doing something permanant like a fiberglass add on, why not just screw and 5200 the ducer bracket to the hull at that point and ixnay the glass? Seems like six of this or a half dozen of the other..
First, follow the above instructions on Taping the thing on to test and get the positon right. Use the industrial tape to hold it on, and don't run the boat over idle otherwise the tape will fail....
But once you get the spot right, then you want a somewhat permanent spot. I say "somewhat" because somewhere down the line, 5 year, 10 years.... it will be either broken or replaced cause something new comes out. The reason I wouldn't screw it directly into the transom is because then you have holes in your transome. And sooner or later, I don't care what ANYBODY tells you, those holes WILL LEAK water into your tranom. If the transom is cored as most are, depending on the material that WILL cause issues years down the road. It might not ever be a problem (as I'm sure some folks will say), but.....
Why not avoid that possiblity completely? If you epoxy on a 1" thick peice of fiberglass to the transom, then screw 3/4" screws into that to hold your bracket, there is nothing protruding into your real transom. Some day, if you ever have to remove or replace or move the bracket, just unscrew it, done. Now worries about the holes left behind as they only go into a dead peice of fiberglass.
The fiberglass block has no affect on the hull since its on the transom, not on the bottom of the hull. So it can be left forever with no problem. OR, if you want to get rid of it some day, just grind it off with a grinder or low grit sander. Done.
.....Thats good to know about the BB sonar. Fortunatley, I have no need or desire for BB Sonar at this time. I am very happy with my FCV585/B164.
It's my understanding that 'Structure Scan' will ONLY work with HDS units, which have the LBS built in. I'm guessing you're stuck with broadband whether you want it or not.
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It's my understanding that 'Structure Scan' will ONLY work with HDS units, which have the LBS built in. I'm guessing you're stuck with broadband whether you want it or not.
Edd
I dont think the broadband sounder is required when using the LSS-1. I think its optional.
I have the Humm 997 sidescan ducers mounted on my Twin Vee with no problems. If you want pics, PM me as I don't know how to post pics on this forum. You shouldn't have a problem, from what I see.
I have the Humm 997 sidescan ducers mounted on my Twin Vee with no problems. If you want pics, PM me as I don't know how to post pics on this forum. You shouldn't have a problem, from what I see.
PM Sent! Thanks for the offer! Would love to see what you did. Email me the pics I will post them here for you.
I usually upload the pics to my photobucket account and paste the "img code" link into the thread. You should also be able to attach a pic when you post a reply. If you select the "Go Advanced" option after you select reply to, there will be a "Manage Attachments" option below on the screen. Click on that and you can upload the pics from there.
You can stick plexiglass to your hull with 5200. What I'd do is get a piece of plexiglass and 5200 it to a block of wood with fiberglass resin or epoxy on it and then 5200 it to the hull. I agree on testing with the tape first though.
I have mounted starboard with screws and 5200 as follows: First mark where two flat head screws will hold the piece of starboard, and then drill the holes in the transom. Undercut these holes, and fill with epoxy, then drill the pilot holes for the screws. Use a Dremel tool dove tail bit, and make a number of dove tail cuts into the starboard back--that will give plenty of "tooth" for the starboard. I have been doing this for over 5 years with many thousands of miles on variious boats, and no problems. This allows you the option of moving the transducer with screws into the starboard.
I would put the transducer as low as possible on the hull where there will not be any turbulance when running at scanning speeds. I don't think that the transducer behind the hull will cause any ventillation.
As for the cables, cut the hole in the transom for the cable fitting, then undercut, and coat with epoxy to avoid anywater intrustion into the hull. Use a "cable Clam" on the outside of the transom, fill with silicone on the inside.
Don't use it on the center of the wing deck under the ladder mount.
I dont think the broadband sounder is required when using the LSS-1. I think its optional.
Well.....am I missing something here? Will the LSS-1 work with anything other than HDS head units? I believe the OP said he had nothing Lowrance on the boat at this time. I just figured...... if you're buying an HDS unit, might as well get the sonar too.
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Well.....am I missing something here? Will the LSS-1 work with anything other than HDS head units? I believe the OP said he had nothing Lowrance on the boat at this time. I just figured...... if you're buying an HDS unit, might as well get the duceronar too.
Edd
I have a Furuno 585 with a 1Kw thru hull. I bought the LSS-1 with the intent of using it provided that I can determine if the LSS1 will fit my boat. If it will work I will get the HDS display. Since I already have a great Furuno 2D setup, there is no real reason for broadband sonar. Yea, maybe I will add another ducer to the transom for broadband down the line, buts its not a priority unless there is anything that broadband will do for me over my 585/B164 combo.. Am I missing something? If so, please tell me! Just seems like redundancy in an area that would just needlessly clutter up the transom or unclutter the wallet...
The structure scan at worst is a toy. At best its a real good tool. The HDS will also provide a back up chart/GPS but my Garmin 4210 will always be my go to.. At least until I upgrade to a 5212 or better.
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if you're buying an HDS unit, might as well get the sonar too.
