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Old 11-19-2009, 07:07 AM
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Any suggestions on wiring an inverter
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Yes. Follow the instructions that come with it.

Use only marine grade cable and connectors, use appropriate circuit protection as close to the battery as possible and don't install it in an engine compartment.
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Ron is right on and I'll add one thing - don't underestimate the battery power required to do what might seem to be 'ordinary' things - like running a microwave, fridge or coffee maker. As an example, 1000 watts coming out of a 12V battery = 83 amps.

I don't know what you plan on running, but the moral of the story is you need serious batteries (and a plan on how they're going to get recharged) to run much more than a tv and some lights.

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As an example, 1000 watts coming out of a 12V battery = 83 amps.
That is a correct calculation for the relationship between power, voltage and current.

But, an inverter does not operate at 100% efficiency.

Expect an inverter to meet the published efficiency specification around full load. The full load efficiency would be 80-90%.

Expect a lesser efficiency at lower loads, like 60-75% for a lightly loaded inverter.

The effect of efficiency means more current is required for a given load power as the efficiency drops.


The inverter location is very important.

The orientation must be correct to comply w/ the cooling requirements. The available free cooling air must meet requirements too.

The inverter cannot be within an ignition protected environment on a gas boat unless it is rated as ignition protected.

The battery leads must be sized to be appropriate w/ the length and the current.
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Before you buy an inverter, buy Nigel Calder's "Boat Owners Mechanical and Electrical Manual". You don't need any advice from us after that. This will be the cheapest 50 bucks you ever spent.

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Yes. Follow the instructions that come with it.

Use only marine grade cable and connectors, use appropriate circuit protection as close to the battery as possible and don't install it in an engine compartment.
Ditto, I've installed two different inverters in my last two boats and experienced no problems. I installed Pro Sine 2.0 inverters. I followed the instructions in the manual and love the system.

The closer to the batteries the better. As the farther away you get the bigger the cable is needed to carry the current safely. I used 4/0 cables when I installed mine and that stuff is pricey like $19 a foot.

I went with the Pro Sine as I wanted a pure sine wave inverter. Better for your electronics.
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I went with the Pro Sine as I wanted a pure sine wave inverter. Better for your electronics.
The sine wave approximation is fine for electronics.

A step wave approximation is fine too.

The switching AC/DC power supplies used on electronics "sips" current at discrete times.

The higher constant voltage on a step wave means the electronic loads will draw less current for a shorter duration than when powered by a sine wave approximation inverter.

These are interesting but negligible differences and either topology is fine.
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The sine wave approximation is fine for electronics.

A step wave approximation is fine too.

The switching AC/DC power supplies used on electronics "sips" current at discrete times.

The higher constant voltage on a step wave means the electronic loads will draw less current for a shorter duration than when powered by a sine wave approximation inverter.

These are interesting but negligible differences and either topology is fine.
That may be your experience and was pretty much mine untill I installed an inverter in my Camano. The one I installed in my previous boat ran the microwave just fine. The one I installed in my Camano is not liked by the Kenmore microwave oven. Sometimes it works fine, sometimes it starts to cook and quickly shuts down (the microwave, that is). I plan to try a different microwave, one I can return if it doesn't like the inverter.

Speaking of microwaves, they are rated by what they call "cooking power". That's the ouput, not the input. A 700 watt microwave will draw about 1,000 watts of electrical power. Something to consider when choosing an inverter. And the point was made above, you will need some serious batteries to power an inverter that's used to power a microwave, coffee pot, hair drier, etc.

Don't even think about using an inverter and batteries to run AC or a water heater.
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You have gotten a lot of good advice. But what do you want to run from the inverter?
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