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Traveler,
"Down to 60 amps"??? LOL!!! My boat has 2, 30 amp shore power connectors (aka 60 amps total when on shore power). I'd be hard pressed to hit 60 amps peak, with everything turned on, at full blast. And you have bait pumps on that thing?? Wow? Didn't realize you fished that. NICE!! Can you please have them start building Hull #17, and send it my way. Thsi way you will be able to say, "there is now one of them on the other side of the canal"!! Oh, and could you also pay for it please?? Thanks!!
Sorry for the confusion. That's 60 amps at 12 volts (and none at 110, except for the part of the 60 that the inverter turns to 110 to run refrigerators and freezers). A lot of boats in this size range put two gensets on -- a big and a little. I put two mediums (17kw each). Even with all the A/C, flood lights, washer/drier, water heater etc, I don't draw more than 12KW. I did put a gas (propane, but convertable to CNG) range, instead of electric cooktops. (Very happy and comfortable with that, but it raises eyebrows.)
The purpose of the boat is to fish long range in enough comfort that my family will want to join me (so far, little luck in that area). Great for fishing with tower (30 feet above sea level, and since the boat is stabilized, very usable), big cockpit, big fishholds, 600 pound per day saltwater ice maker (way better for fish than freshwater ice), lots of rod holders (50, not counting the transom and caprail holders), trolling valves, scanning sonar, good wake, and great walk around room. Very little that room for improvement, except that you can't see the cockpit from the pilothouse or the flybridge helms. Also, no bow tank (yet -- its plumbed but my wife doesn't like the look), and I can't help but think that the 4-cycle QSM's do not raise fish the way big 2-stroke Detroits can. Plus, it is not a gun and run boat -- top cruise is 17-18 knots (@85%-90% load).
Hull 17 is being commissioned and 18 is under construction now. I don't know if there is still a waiting list to get the hull laid up. As far as paying for it, between buying this boat and the economy, I am tapped out.
WOW!! Man, that is really rigged nicely. If you can't get the family to crew, let me know I;ll help ya out on the next fishing trip!!
Couple questions:
1. What do you mean "Bow tank"?
2. If your total max amp burn rate is only 12kw, why did you install 2 17kw units? One for backup/redundancy?
3. Why does the gas range raise eyebrows? Sounds like a great idea to me. I have a genset onboard, and an electric range, but I also carry one of those small portable gas stoves (uses the small gas can the size of a spray paint bottle). Just so I don't have to fire up the Geni just to cook an egg....
A bait tank on the bow, so you have live bait readily available as you pull up on a paddy or breaking fish, a tailer, etc.
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2. If your total max amp burn rate is only 12kw, why did you install 2 17kw units? One for backup/redundancy? .
Well, first I wasn't sure what the total load would be, but I knew that my shore power capacity was 12kw, so I didn't think I would need more than that. On the other hand, I didn't want the genset to be overloaded (or underloaded). In retrospect, probably a 13kw would have been a better choice.
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3. Why does the gas range raise eyebrows? Sounds like a great idea to me.
There is a legitimate safety consideration -- propane is heavier than air, so if there is a leak it will accumulate in the bilge and blow up if there is a spark. From what I have seen, propane is common on sail boats, but rare on power boats. Traveler's propane lines are continuous run copper with chaffing protection at every bulkhead, etc., and it has a leak tester, so as a practical matter the risk of a leak is minimal. Plus, gas cooks way better. It is very nice to be at sea or in the middle of nowhere and have a gormet meal.
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I have a genset onboard, and an electric range, but I also carry one of those small portable gas stoves (uses the small gas can the size of a spray paint bottle). Just so I don't have to fire up the Geni just to cook an egg....
That was part of my thinking in wanting a gas range. As it is, any time my family wants to do anything, I am called to action. The last thing I wanted was to have to start the genset just because someone wanted to cook an egg. If only I could teach them how to activate the gas solenoid.
By the way, in my opinion, gas (propane) is way safer than alcohol (it is very difficult to see an alcohol flame), and it cooks better (since alcohol burns at a low temp. So, It sounds to me like you are well set up.
Thanks for your interest. I really enjoy talking about my boat.
Caltexflanc, It’s not a big deal, it would just help me with perspective as I’m getting on top of rocks and other spots. Also for someone else who might not be used to running the boat, I think it is misleading that the boat looks like it is going one direction while it’s not.
Birdman, Yes I do have four 6-volt batteries as a house bank in addition to the two starting batteries in my Parker. I do most of my fishing at least overnight and many longer. I had to cut a hole in my floor in the pilothouse and make a new compartment just for the batteries.
I don’t even think about leaving my 1834C plotter and Cyclone bait pump on all night anymore. I even get up and make a pot of coffee in the morning using my inverter. Battery setup is one of the best things I’ve done with the boat.
A bait tank on the bow, so you have live bait readily available as you pull up on a paddy or breaking fish, a tailer, etc.
Wow, nice!! OK, I have your solution since the wife "won't like the look of it on the bow...". Make it a small HotTub / Livewell combo!! Some live baitfish or a couple of lively babes in some bubbly water, there's not much difference, is there??
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Thanks for your interest. I really enjoy talking about my boat.
You kidding me? Thanks for sharing it with me/us!! I LOVE hearing about these works of art!! A guy can dream can't he...!
Topshot,
That looks like an awesome setup. I currently only have one group 31 house battery. One of my last projects on my new boat, for this winter is add some house power. My problem is I don't know where I'm going to put it. My engine room already has everything shoe-horned in. I litterall can't find any space for another battery in it. I have lots of empty space back in my lazerette, but I'd hate to have to run #1 wires 20' all the way back there... but back there, I could easily add 2 more Group 31 AGM's.
I know the no extra space thing very well. Parker’s don’t have much either. That’s why I had to cut a hole in the pilothouse floor, hollow out all the foam and glass in a solid bottom to make a place for my house bank. I think you will find that you need to run that wire either way. In order to charge the bank correctly, it takes quite a few amps. I found that in order to keep the voltage up and charge correctly, the larger wire helped keep the resistance down.
Mytraveler,
I’m with Birdman on you’re boat also. It’s not hard to see you’re in a different tax bracket then most of us, but we share a common dream. We are all proud of our boats and could talk about them all the time. Please don’t hesitate to share. You’re yacht is truly awesome and it’s nice to see set up something setup so well. Although the “and a cocktail ice maker going” did make me a little jealous. That’s why these Internet boards are so great, we can all share and learn.
I too made adjustments so my wife would feel at home on the boat. She still does not go with me as much as I’d like, but I got the pilothouse model to keep her out of the sun as much as possible. She had breast cancer 11 years ago and after chemo and radiation, she’s not supposed to be in the sun.
I have talked to Furuno about this and they are supposed to be looking into it. It should also show a radius circle so that can adjust by that when radar is on and marking other boats.
On the batteries I use just two 6 volts on 31' Tiara and we can run at anchor all day and all night.
__________________ Capt. Ryan
1988 31' Tiara Open
USCG 50T Master
