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To really compare you'd have to see the displays side by side at the same location. The c-map is nice but not as smooth as the garmin. The good thing about all of this is for the boaters (users). After spending 31 years of my life in the Navy (combat systems) I can truthfully say .... more is not better. KISS .... keep it simple stupid. The average boater (one who gets on the water a few times a month will never use 25 % of the installed capability of his electronics. What you've learned after lets say 2 weeks on the water in regards to your installed electronic will degrade day by day until you have to learn most of it over. We called it perishable skills ... that's why we did fast cruises after spending more than two weeks in port ...... to get everyone back up to speed on the systems.
When you think about it a fisherman needs to get where he's going & back (safely) (MFD GPS) and once there his favorite piece of equipment is the FF. You really spend most of your time looking at these two displays. All this other stuff is nice but not necessary. You eyes and ears are the two best sensors you have underway. Common sense helps alot too.
I just fell off my soap box ... thanks for indulging me.
I just fell off my soap box ... thanks for indulging me.
LOL!! I was wondering where all that was going....
Your dead wrong about the 25% though!! Most users use less than 10% of what's available!! I'm amazed when people get on my boat at the dock to check out my electronics and before I get to show them whatever it was I was goin to demo, they stop and yell, "WOW, That's great, I wish I had that xyz feature!", and I of course replay, "You do have that feature, almost all units have xyz now".
Dear Garmin,
Please send me a 7215 display ASAP, so I can do you the huge favor of comparing the 7215 and the 5215 side by side. I'll promptly return the 5215 to you aftwards.
Dear Garmin,
Please send me a 7215 display ASAP, so I can do you the huge favor of comparing the 7215 and the 5215 side by side. I'll promptly return the 5215 to you aftwards.
Regards,
Birdman
Shouldn't this say "Dear Santa"??
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I'd like to see that same video, but with the PHOTO's turned OFF. The photo overlayed is not really used most fo the time. I'd bet it's alot faster with those turned off.
I think the only way for Garmin to solve this is, to ship me one so I can "test" it. As I said, I'd gladly ship back the 5215 the same day!!
I just played with a Raymarine E90WIDE Beta this afternoon. The screen redraw (touchscreen) is pretty darn quick. Making a route is as fast as your fingers touch the screen. The line between waypoints is instant. No shist. Also, now the chart can be viewed as a 3D tilted view-like Garmin-and also overlays radar video. Very slick. The touchscreen has a home button. (Like Garmin) I guarantee that people are definetly going to love the speed and ease.
Again, (and thanks to Garmin) Raymarine listened to the difficult functionality complaints and really dialed this generation in. This WILL be a very popular unit.
I just played with a Raymarine E90WIDE Beta this afternoon. The screen redraw (touchscreen) is pretty darn quick. Making a route is as fast as your fingers touch the screen. The line between waypoints is instant. No shist. Also, now the chart can be viewed as a 3D tilted view-like Garmin-and also overlays radar video. Very slick. The touchscreen has a home button. (Like Garmin) I guarantee that people are definetly going to love the speed and ease.
Again, (and thanks to Garmin) Raymarine listened to the difficult functionality complaints and really dialed this generation in. This WILL be a very popular unit.
I love a good horse race......
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Depth doesn't really matter Birdman? Someone was just being kind to you!
Who would that "someone" be? I installed everything myself. I have TONS of depth, Rampage did a great job with this helm, a big flap open spadce to flush mount on, lots of depth to it, and lots of space in/benith it for black boxes to be mounted.
But I guess your right, I should have stated "To ME, depth doesn't matter".
Unless of course you had something non-marine related in mind!!
I just played with a Raymarine E90WIDE Beta this afternoon. The screen redraw (touchscreen) is pretty darn quick. Making a route is as fast as your fingers touch the screen. The line between waypoints is instant. No shist. Also, now the chart can be viewed as a 3D tilted view-like Garmin-and also overlays radar video. Very slick. The touchscreen has a home button. (Like Garmin) I guarantee that people are definetly going to love the speed and ease.
Again, (and thanks to Garmin) Raymarine listened to the difficult functionality complaints and really dialed this generation in. This WILL be a very popular unit.
Awesome!! That sounds great... If that is the hybrid unit (touchscreen and some buttons), and works as advertised that will definitely be a winner for Raymarine!!
The Garmin 5000 series is actually fast when creating a route and drawing the line you mention. Where it can drag a bit is when zooming in and zooming out, and/or trying to pan very fast and/or very far. What I never understood is why Sometimes it's instant, and sometimes it takes a few seconds. It's almost like at times the unit is busy doing something else, and when it's finished with that process, then it returns to your attention and does what you asked. And other times, it's very fast, maybe it had nothing else to do internally....?
One thing I've noticed, when I first got the unit (something like vers 3.x software), the unit seemed very fast. As small updates came out, it slowly slowed down a bit with each update. Then, suddenly one of the larger updates came out (maybe 4.x) and it was fast again. I remember a bullet pt in the update saying something like "Fixed internal speed issue". Then, as more small updates came out, it slowly slowed down again. I think Garmin needs to re-visit that bullet pt again n the 5.4 version.
Hewesfissher,
How is/was the speed on the new RM unit when zooming in and out?
I got my free one from Garmin, but I'm gonna hold off installing until my free nordhaven arrives. They were out and have to build me a new one. Oh well.
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Awesome!!
Hewesfissher,
How is/was the speed on the new RM unit when zooming in and out?
Actually the zooming was interesting. The zoom function occurs only with the keys to the right. I guess for those of us that have used most plotters, it would be easier to use than trying to tap the screen when underway--but that's just an opinion.. But, to answer your question, there was little to no lag when you zoom! The lag was when you touch the screen to pan. THAT is the hybrid part. There must be alot more processiung lag when you iniate a command from the screen vs using the touch soft keys. I really wanted to tax the system and see under some of the worst conditions the units' speed via touching the screen. The bummer was, it wasn't loaded with a Plat+ chip. (being a BETA version) So what I can say is that when the sytem was in 2D chart mode, it was damn fast. When I went into 3D mode there I could see it took longer. Slight, but noticeable. (Im darn picky I might add) I would guess the speed with a plat+ (which we all know IS math intensive) would make a larger impact on its speed.
As a side note, I thought the 5000 series Garmin plotters had a "faster" chip than the 4000 series. I was wrong--they're the same chip. It seems software and the touch-screen platform just seems to make them run much faster. So, having useded a C120WIDE for 60 hours and seeing IT with a plat+ chip and finding it VERY quick, I can surmize that the E140WIDE really will be very quick.
I know at times we all get a bit jaded as to performance levels, but I do try to be somewhat objective. I plan on being a E140Wide owner soon.
I'm amazed when people get on my boat at the dock to check out my electronics and before I get to show them whatever it was I was goin to demo, they stop and yell, "WOW, That's great, I wish I had that xyz feature!", and I of course replay, "You do have that feature, almost all units have xyz now". 
