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Hello all. Just got my Garmin electronics installed today, and have a few update questions. Searched the forums, and...no update instructions in the owner's manual!?!
Here is what I have: 4210 plotter, GSD22 sounder, GPS 17x sat rcvr, GDL30A weather/audio, B164 1KW transducer, and VHF200 radio.
Registered products with Garmin with exception of transducer and gps17x
So, went to the boat, and transferred info onto a sd card. Loaded card in computer. I attached a word doc of my system info for your review.
Logged on to garmin and looks like I can update the 4210 from ver 5.3 to 5.4...but according to instructions, I need to ensure other components are at a min update prior to updating to 5.4. MPORTANT: To maintain compatibility with all devices on the Garmin Marine Network, please ensure all connected devices meet the minimum software versions, as listed below. Updating your GPSmap unit to the latest software without following this guideline may leave part of your Marine Network unusable.
For instance, GSD22 must be 2.0 or higher, and will be updated to 2.9 (fine, mine is at 2.8)
My problems:
1. my downloaded info on the sd card doesn't depict which ver of GDL30A may be ver 2 or ver 3
2. Two part problem. Update min req lists GPS17xHVS and a GPS17N. I presume the N is for NMEA200, which is what I have. Strangely though, the final update is spelled out for GPS17x-NMEA2000.
In any case, I have ver 1.0, and am supposed to have at least 2.6 prior to doing this update. I go to the individual product page to grab that GPS17X NMEA update...and no updates avail.
Any suggestions?
Sorry for the long post. I am new to this (still have a compass and divider in the other room.), I want to update, and get the boat in the water tomorrow if possible.
Thanks in advance,
Larry
Run the update, all will be well, or not. But I wouldn't worry about it. Just make sure everything is on and running properly when you insert the chip.
And don't kill the power to the unit, even if it takes a while for the update to run it's course, that will only force a call to tech support.
It can take a while (several minutes, but not hours) to run. Just be patient. On rare occasions, I've had to cycle the power after an update to get things back to normal. On an even rarer occasion, I've had to rerun the update because some component didn't seem to take the load properly. It was all good in the end.
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In any case, I have ver 1.0, and am supposed to have at least 2.6 prior to doing this update. I go to the individual product page to grab that GPS17X NMEA update...and no updates avail.
Any suggestions?
Your unit must have been sitting in someone's stockroom for a really long time.
Either contact Garmin first or try the update and see what happens. Then if there's a problem, contact Garmin.
And as posted above, make sure everything is on and running, start the update, and don't turn anything off untill it's finished. Go for lunch if necessary.
Thank you both for the responses. Another question then (based on concerns on another post regarding powering the ducer)
When you say "make sure everything is on" , do I need to ensure my ducer is transmitting? If so, should I assume that I should be performing the update while the boat is in the water? It's on the trailer now.
Maybe I'm sweating the load too much?!?
Thank you both for the responses. Another question then (based on concerns on another post regarding powering the ducer)
When you say "make sure everything is on" , do I need to ensure my ducer is transmitting? If so, should I assume that I should be performing the update while the boat is in the water? It's on the trailer now.
Maybe I'm sweating the load too much?!?
I would be pretty sure the boat doesn't have to be in the water. The transducer will be "transmitting" if the sounder is powered.
You won't see any sonar changes untill the boat is in the water. They will be there but you won't see them.
You probably don't want to run a B164 dry. That's a thru-hull ducer, correct?
You can probably disconnect the ducer without effecting the update to the gsd. You can check with Garmin if needed though.
Yeah, it's a through-hull. I did the update this afternoon, and it seemed to work OK. I will find out tomorrow when I launch. Hopefully didn't do any damage, as I didn't even think to disconnect the transducer. Wouldn't be the only mistake I ever made, but potentially the most expensive.
Well,
I had the boat out today. Updates seemed to have worked fine, and no apparent harm done. I actually used to work with submersible platforms in the Navy that used transducers, and we were always told not to transmit out of the water, or while on the trailer. Of course it occurs occasionally, and I don't ever recall having a problem. Probably best to avoid if possible though.
Only annoying issue I noticed with my setup, is that if I cut the motors, while on a spot, ff and chartplotter continued to work fine. However, when I restart the motors, the display shuts off, and reboots. I'll have to: read the manual, do a search, and post another thread (in that order) to find out if there is a solution to this.
Glad update installs went well. About reboot/shut off problem, most likely just voltage drop. You can do a search here for several workarounds that are available, ranging from supplemental small and large batteries to other items. Have fun.
Glad update installs went well. About reboot/shut off problem, most likely just voltage drop. You can do a search here for several workarounds that are available, ranging from supplemental small and large batteries to other items. Have fun.
Yes, it is a voltage drop from powering the starter motor. There have been several threads on this in the past.
Only annoying issue I noticed with my setup, is that if I cut the motors, while on a spot, ff and chartplotter continued to work fine. However, when I restart the motors, the display shuts off, and reboots. I'll have to: read the manual, do a search, and post another thread (in that order) to find out if there is a solution to this.
This is off topic but your problem is your installer put the electronic on the starting battery (aka poor installation choice). so when you restart the motor. the voltage drop from the cranking causing the electronic to reboot. put all your electronic on a dedicated battery bank and say good bye to unnecessary reboots.
Thank you. That was helpful. "Voltage Drop" were the key words needed for a relevant search. I'll start a new thread, as I think my boat is rigged differently from others.
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