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Old 11-06-2009, 06:36 AM
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Yep, same exact menus on 4000 and 5000. In fact, it's the same software. I ussually download hte 4000 software because they never update the 5215 weblinks.

So yes, I also have the "Menu", "Charts", "Fishing Charts" option on the 5215.

So what your saying is, the ONLY thing missing in HP is the supression of some of the nav info, when the fishing chart is selected, correct? Because you ARE looking at the same chart when you select the 511 chart up at the top.

When you look around where we ussually fish (canyons...), there is no nav info anyway, so there's nothing to supress.

But I do see the zooming issues. It's almost every other zoom level, the detail appears or dissapears. Then definitely need to fix that.
Birdie, the maps are layered like a cake. The bathy stuff looks like it is at the highest layer (1:100000 or so). As you zoom in, you start to be presented with different charts. Out at the hudson, there aren't that many, and maybe just the one, so you never lose the detail.

But inshore where I was looking, there are lots of overlapping charts at different aspect ratios. Once I zoom in, the bathy chart info isn't available on the lower aspect ratio charts so it disappears.

I think the fishing chart view was supposed to correct that. It needs to work better, but at least I can zoom in on the bathy chart now.

Golf, I have left HP open overnight and it worked fine. It's possible they have a memory leak that I just wasn't invoking however. That would certainly account for it.
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Two items on HP.
One, HP does not run well at the same time MS is open on my computer. HP runs very slow and is very unresponsive.
Two, if HP stays open, such as overnight, it seems to run extremely slow.
Any one else have these issues, or is it just me?
Fooltain and I are having a similar issue. In my case MS is not running and HP is slow and unresponsive. I have not left it running overnight so can't answer that. Have contacted tech support and trying to figure things out. It runs good on my crappy laptop and my super Mac but not on my good windoze desktop. Anyway we're working on it. So now there are 3 of us.
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Why would ya leave it running overnight? Close the thing for heavens sake. Common man, LET GO!!
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So do you not leave your computer up overnight or any applications open overnight? I do not believe that your reply was informative or helpful.
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I see it now. Garmin has added a secret sw component which causes people to become so mesmerized that they sit staring at their monitor all night.

All the while, subliminal ad's for their new products are running...

buy touchscreens.... buy transducers... buy ais vhf radios..... love the birdman.. LOVE the birdman...


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I see it now. Garmin has added a secret sw component which causes people to become so mesmerized that they sit staring at their monitor all night.

All the while, subliminal ad's for their new products are running...

buy touchscreens.... buy transducers... buy ais vhf radios..... love the birdman.. LOVE the birdman...


I have 4 computers running 24 7 with lots of app's running but not HP. I had heard about those subliminal messages LOL. But then again if I propped my wife up in front of it, it may just work. She needs to have new boat electronics too. Just not sure about the Birdman message
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I have 4 computers running 24 7 with lots of app's running but not HP. I had heard about those subliminal messages LOL. But then again if I propped my wife up in front of it, it may just work. She needs to have new boat electronics too. Just not sure about the Birdman message
I've got (at last count) 10 computers running in my house, 3 tivo's, an xbox, a wii, three itouch's, printers, routers, switches, firewalls, 2 VMware ESX servers (quad core, 16 gb ram, and upwards of 10 vm's each). I use a lot of IP addresses.

You don't want to see my electric bill.
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I've got (at last count) 10 computers running in my house, 3 tivo's, an xbox, a wii, three itouch's, printers, routers, switches, firewalls, 2 VMware ESX servers (quad core, 16 gb ram, and upwards of 10 vm's each). I use a lot of IP addresses.

You don't want to see my electric bill.
yep that beats me. You want a high electric? Get a salt water fish tank. I just shut mine down and sold it. My bill went down over $150 a month!
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yep that beats me. You want a high electric? Get a salt water fish tank. I just shut mine down and sold it. My bill went down over $150 a month!
Worse, I've got a swimming pool we heat with a heat exchanger. That sucker will chew through about $300/month in electricity while it is on.
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Ok, here is an interesting bugglet. I created a couple of new routes in a new folder. Then I was changing the icon symbols since I didn't want the default anchor for my waypoints and I noticed that I had waypoints in one route that didn't appear in the object listing to the left. They don't seem to appear anywhere in Homeport, but exist in the route itself.

Wierd. Anyone else notice this?

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So do you not leave your computer up overnight or any applications open overnight? I do not believe that your reply was informative or helpful.
You will often find that just re-booting your computer from time to time will cause problems to go away and it and applications to perform better. My mother in law complained that she could no longer print and wanted me to check her printer. Rebooting the PC solved the problem. Some applications behave badly and consume resources.

That said, at my house, one PC gets turned off at night (usually), one runs all the time (it's basically a music server), and one runs a few days and then gets rebooted or left off if I'll be away for a day or two. That's the one used for e-mail.
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Two items on HP.
One, HP does not run well at the same time MS is open on my computer. HP runs very slow and is very unresponsive.
Two, if HP stays open, such as overnight, it seems to run extremely slow.
Any one else have these issues, or is it just me?
OK, I just had to try it. On my desktop, it doesn't seem to affect the performance of HomePort if I run MapSource at the same time. Mind you, I didn't take a stop watch to it or do any specific testing, but just by observation, it makes no difference.

HP seems to run faster on my desktop PC than on my laptop but so does everything else.

Standard advice: Defrag, close uneeded applications, run a PC tuneup application, check for viruses and spyware.

It's amazing (and disgusting) how many applications set some part of their program to run everytime your computer boots just in case you might want to use them at some point. They don't ask, they just do it.
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I had the SAME problem on my laptop, several times. Not sure of the cause, other than something in it's database gets corrupt, and once that occurs you ned to remove HP completly, then re-install. FOLLOW THESE DIRECTIONS AT YOUR OWN RISK. BACKUP YOUR DATA FIRST!!!

To remove completely:
1. Control Panel, Add Remove programs, find Garmin Homeport, click Remove.
2. Now DELETE the Garmin/Homeport directories under Documents and settings\your_username\AplicationData\Garmin\Homep ort AND under Programs\Garmin\Homeport. If you see it anywhere else, DELETE IT.
3. Now the delicate part: run "Regedit", and delete any Homeport Keys in the registry: there should be 2, one under Local Machine\Software\Garmin\Homeport and the 2nd under CurrentUser\Software\Garmin\Homeport. Delete both of those keys.
4. Reboot
5. Re-install the Homeport install program. No need to re-download, just click on the file you downloaded already.
6. If you had data backed up already, do the restore and yoru back in bidness.

The same issue has occured to me a few times already. Runs fine, then I close it. Go to restart HP, and nothing happens. Click icon and notta. Check task mngr and notta. Do the above dance and it runs again. Obviously Garmin has a small bug somewhere...

good luck!

I was a little premature in my last post to say that it now loads perfectly, well it did....for all of two days and probably four start ups, now I've got the same problem and I'm getting a little sick of it now.

Surely there must be other people besides Birdman and I with this issue?

Is it a Garmin HP S/W issue or a Windows issue or a machine issue??? I'm becoming quite frustrated and annoyed that I've got to go through that rigmarole again to get HP to load, again.

It becomes doubly frustrating when my local Garmin support tell me they haven't heard of Homeport, tell me they will contact Garmin in the US for a solution AND never call you back even after I make follow up calls to check on progress
I hope someone from Garmin is following this thread.

What say you all?

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So do you not leave your computer up overnight or any applications open overnight? I do not believe that your reply was informative or helpful.
And that is helpful?

I leave all kinds of stuff up all night. BUT, why would I, or anyone else leave HP running all night? It doesn't do anything by itself. Leaving it running is asking for database trouble.
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And that is helpful?

I leave all kinds of stuff up all night. BUT, why would I, or anyone else leave HP running all night? It doesn't do anything by itself. Leaving it running is asking for database trouble.
Every application left running consumes resources. Leaving a spreadsheet, word processor, explorer, and outlook running might make sense but not every application you have.

Just like the lights in the baement. Turn them off if you won't be going down there for a while.
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Every application left running consumes resources. Leaving a spreadsheet, word processor, explorer, and outlook running might make sense but not every application you have.

Just like the lights in the baement. Turn them off if you won't be going down there for a while.
Well, sort of, but a well written app won't die if left on for months. Just look at outlook (yeah, I know, MS). Most people leave that running for the life of their computer and it usually just keeps clicking. But then again, Outlook has billions of hours of run time and has been in development for over 12 years.

But this is v1 software. If they didn't use tools during development to look for memory leaks, or address boundary over runs, or a dozen other errors, we will be finding them.

Sometimes I get distracted by other things and I don't shut down apps on my computer. I fall asleep, or just don't have the energy. The apps shouldn't shred themselves just because.

Don't blame the user.

And so far, I haven't had to reinstall the app. But I did leave it open last night by accident, and this morning it was very slow to respond. I shut it down....
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Well, sort of, but a well written app won't die if left on for months. Just look at outlook (yeah, I know, MS). Most people leave that running for the life of their computer and it usually just keeps clicking. But then again, Outlook has billions of hours of run time and has been in development for over 12 years.

But this is v1 software. If they didn't use tools during development to look for memory leaks, or address boundary over runs, or a dozen other errors, we will be finding them.

Sometimes I get distracted by other things and I don't shut down apps on my computer. I fall asleep, or just don't have the energy. The apps shouldn't shred themselves just because.

Don't blame the user.

And so far, I haven't had to reinstall the app. But I did leave it open last night by accident, and this morning it was very slow to respond. I shut it down....
But another running app can drain resources and cause the one you're using to run slowly or not at all.

You have your anti virus software, you have your anti spyware software, you may have some other utilities, and as I mentioned above, you can have several "mini apps" running that you don't even know about.

I agree with you on the V1 software.

BTW Did you know that the first release of dBase (a once popular database software) was dBase II ? They figured nobody would buy version 1.
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Just wanted to let you know that there is a Garmin Forum dedicated to HomePort at: https://forums.garmin.com/forumdisplay.php?f=214 which answers many of the questions here.
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I'm about to rip it out and reload it. I can't get around the problem with waypoints not showing up in the object map. Since the problem I described above, I can't get a single waypoint to appear in the object list, whether or not it is part of a new or existing route. The ones that were there are still there, but none of the new ones will show up.
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Just wanted to let you know that there is a Garmin Forum dedicated to HomePort at: https://forums.garmin.com/forumdisplay.php?f=214 which answers many of the questions here.
Thanks for posting that. It looks like the questions are being answered by a Garmin person familiar with the software.

That would probably be a better place to post questions and problems with HomePort.
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