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Old 10-31-2009, 07:31 PM
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Isn't this supposed to work with my g2 Vision card? I inserted the g2 into my pc and I can't get it to read. Am I missing something?
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Isn't this supposed to work with my g2 Vision card? I inserted the g2 into my pc and I can't get it to read. Am I missing something?
I haven't tried my vision chip yet, it's still on the boat, but I did try a non-vision g2 chip I had and it worked fine. As soon as I inserted the chip it was detected and added as a map choice. Note, you do have to select it in the chart selection pulldown list in the upper left hand corner under File/Edit/etc menu options.

Can you see the SD card in explorer?
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The G2 vison chip works fine. Insert it into your reader after you fire up homeport. Make sure you have a good connection. Sometimes mine does not connect in the two bit reader I am using.
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I just downloaded hp and it is running on a lenovo ibm 3ghz dual core w/ 2 meg of ram and it also is running clunky. Takes about 3 seconds or more before anything happens after clicking on something. Anyone have any ideas
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I just downloaded hp and it is running on a lenovo ibm 3ghz dual core w/ 2 meg of ram and it also is running clunky. Takes about 3 seconds or more before anything happens after clicking on something. Anyone have any ideas
There have been a few who have had a similar issue. I would expect it to be one of 2 things. Either your Microsoft .Net framework is an older version and needs an update or your graphics chipset or settings. I would tend to think its a graphics related issue.

First make sure you are running the latest video driver for your graphics chipset. Second, you might try playing with some of the settings by right clicking the desktop and going to properties/settings. Check to see if your in 32bit mode. If you are, go to advanced and make sure you are in full acceleration mode if that option is available. Also, check your resolution and play with different settings. Since the program is new, it will take Garmin some time to determine issues with various graphic chipsets and as such, in the interim, we are left to our own devices to sort these issues out.

Lastly, since homeport utilizes the maps from an SD reader, it could also be something to do with the reader or the USB port that its attached to. If the device is very slow, I could see that causing some issues however, I doubt that would be the root cause.
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I've been playing with hp for a couple of days now and haven't really had any performance issues, crashes, or reasons to reinstall it. I'm not easy on software, so it seems to be pretty good, especially since it's a v1.0 product.

My puter isn't new or a speed daemon, it's over 3 years old (a dell e521) but it does have 3gb of ram and a powerful graphics card.

Anyway, it seems easy to use and has some fun features, like the ability to load a route into google earth. Creating and editing routes seems to be easy and straightforwards. There are a few things I haven't figured out yet - like how do I make routes invisible?

I haven't used it a lot yet, but so far I give it two thumbs up. Good job garmin.
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Hmm, ok, it looks like something encouraging here.

I made a copy of the files on my G2 Vision card, then copied them to a new chip without mucking with them in any way. Well, I didn't copy the xml file, but that seemed kind of silly.

The copy chip worked fine with HP. I'm relatively sure it (the copy) will not work with the 4212, but it will work with HP.

At least I won't have to be moving my primary (expensive) chip all over creation. I can just leave it in a safe place on the boat.

It would be nice to get the fancy features, like sat overlays and guide to capabilities, but I can do without that until/if they come later.

In the meantime, I can use HP with the vision chip detail without having the vision chip at home. I'm still only using one copy at a time, so it's fair use.
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I've been playing with it after downloading it over the weekend. It seems to run well on my 7 year old Dell, an early Pentium4 with Windows XP and only 640 mb of RAM - it is an odd machine, despite running 24/7 for the past 7 years it has given me zero trouble and in real life faster than the 2 significantly newer Vista machines my kids have. Maybe if Windows 7 proves itself, I may replace it.
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gerg,
To somewhat "hide" a route or track in HP, just change it's color to white. I have ALL ove mine set to white, unless I'm using it, then I change it to purple or something that shows up. The color selection is at the top right side of the "properties box" at the bottom of display, when you select the route/track.


One MAJOR thing I can't find in HP???? WHERE IS THE CATEGORIES??? Are they GONE?? If so, we need them back ASAP!!! Anyone else notice that???


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Hmm, ok, it looks like something encouraging here.


It would be nice to get the fancy features, like sat overlays and guide to capabilities, but I can do without that until/if they come later.

In the meantime, I can use HP with the vision chip detail without having the vision chip at home. I'm still only using one copy at a time, so it's fair use.
Although it is not as high quality as the chip, you can send your entire collection to google earth (go to view and send my collection to google earth) there you can zoom into a satelite view of everything around, but it is not as close up but still detailed enough that you can see the inside of a marina etc...

I have to agree, the guide to feature would be a gem on this program. But you would need to be able to set air and water draft and I see no location in this program to do that.

I made copies of all my chips to use on HP also. all works fine. I can now send my originals out to be updated and still have something to work with.
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With the 545s and g2 vision card, I can only get the "navigational chart view" - why will it not let me get the fishing chart or both under the "View" - "Chart Views" tabs?
I have setup the feature to see the Fishing Charts under the Tools menu then Options Menu>Chart Features>then check Shaded Relief.
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Your looking in the wrong place. In your pic above, look one line under the File menu, it says "US Marine..." in a box. Drop THAT selection box down, which is the choice of all your different data sets (Global Chart that came with HP, Built in charts you downloaded from your unit, G2 Vision chip if inserted in SD slot, Tides and Currents....).

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Birdie, I have the same issue as gone. I have the VUS511L chart selected in that pull down box, but the Fishing chart selection is still grey'd out in the menu above. It must be a feature they are planning but haven't turned on yet.

I suspect they were planning to release the capability but a late breaking bug forced them to disable it. Just wait a week or se until they come out with the next rev. It will probably work at some point.

I never use the fishing chart personally. I find it next to worthless. They actually have less contour info and depth info on that than on the nav chart, and offshore fishing is all about structure and topo. In fact, I haven't found any uses for it.

If someone wants to tell me what is so good about it, I'd love to listen.
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You dont see this??? If that's not helpfulm, not sure what is!! That is zoomed all the ay out, the more you zoom in, the more detail you see.... As you see, that is VUS511L (same as users):

PS- The menu items View, Chart View doesn't do anything. Not sure why it's there with the "Fishing Chart" greyed out. but you don't need it.

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Compare that to the regular Bluechart of same display:

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Birdie, yes, I see that, but ONLY in the navigation view. If I switch to the fishing view all of that topo info disappears......

The view you are showing is the nav view, btw.

Those contour lines also go away if you zoom in. wtf is up with that?

I want to see the topo lines, especially zoomed in. The topo lines should stay as you zoom in, not disappear as the plotter switches charts on you.

My comment/question was on the Fishing Chart view in the chartplotter. I've never found a good use for it since it doesn't seem optimized for fishing. What is it supposed to do?
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What happend to the CATAGORIES?? My biggest complaint with HP is the lack of abilty to filter out a list of data (WP's, routes and or tracks). The Categories are gone, and there is no separation of WP's, Routes and Tracks other than the being able to sort by "symbol". That is killing me....

In MS you could easily select the Waypoint Tab, then drop the Category selection down to a custom category selection (ex: "REEF"), and I would have all my WP's that represented a REEF, and then click on any of the header fields to sort it ascending or descending by that field (ex: date, or Name, or Location, or Depth..). I could then select the Tracks tab, and do the same with tracks.

I can almost do the same thing in HP if I separate all my WP's and tracks into different folders, but there are 2 issues with that, most of my WP's are in multiple categories, so I would have to make sure I manage them very closely. A Reef WP for example is also a "FISHING" waypoint. But not all "FISHING" WP's fall into the REEF category. Secondly, we lost all the sorting abilities (date, location, depth...), but that I'm sure they can add back in as it's easy to add sorts. Then there is the issue of making sure I would then select and transfer all those different folders to my chip when transferring data. And if I add new WP's on my plotter and bring them back into HP, now I have to copy it into many different folders in my collection using the "Sent To".

Me thinks we need the Tabs above the data box (WP's, Tracks, Routes) and the Categories back. Anyone else have this issue? Am I missing something or doing it wrong? Whoo dunn it???
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Gerg,
Forget the "Views". There is no "Fishing View" in HP. Your just either looking at the Fishing charts with Bathy data as pictured, or you looking at the regular Navigation charts (2nd picture above) which does not have the Bathy info.

And they contour lines don't disapear when zoomed in?? If you zoom in so far that you are between 2 of them, sure, you won't see a contour line, but they are not dissapearing, they just don't have THAT much detail. You do know those contour lines are somewhat ficticious really, right? It's not like at that exact spot the depth drops from 400 to 425'. It's jsut showijng you that between here and there, the depth changes X amount.

If find them pretty accurate too. When it says 425, my FF ussually says 426 or 424.
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Forget the "Views". There is no "Fishing View" in HP. Your just either looking at the Fishing charts with Bathy data as pictured, or you looking at the regular Navigation charts (2nd picture above) which does not have the Bathy info.

And they contour lines don't disapear when zoomed in?? If you zoom in so far that you are between 2 of them, sure, you won't see a contour line, but they are not dissapearing, they just don't have THAT much detail. You do know those contour lines are somewhat ficticious really, right? It's not like at that exact spot the depth drops from 400 to 425'. It's jsut showijng you that between here and there, the depth changes X amount.

If find them pretty accurate too. When it says 425, my FF ussually says 426 or 424.
You are really mixing up terminology here in a way Garmin doesn't use it.

First, the nav charts you refer to are the built in charts you would see if you didn't use the G2 vision chip.

The fishing charts you are talking about are the G2 vision charts.

In the 4212, and I suspect the 52xx, when you go to the home menu, you get several choices - radar, sonar, nav, etc. If you choose nav, you then see a bunch more choices, one of which is Fishing Charts.

You see the same option grey'd out in HP.

That's what I'm refering to above.

I don't have the charts here, but I will post something later showing how the topo line detail goes away (you still have topo lines, but not the detailed ones) as you zoom in. This is the same thing that happens in the Nav view on the CP.
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